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In order of drafted:

Simmons
Ingram
Brown
Hield
J Murray
Sabonis
LeVert
Siakam
D Murray
Brodgon

Yes. Fans are no doubt lower on him than NBA front offices are. This is also coming from the main Ingram>Simmons guy from back in 2016.

There is no doubt he doesn’t go anywhere lower than 3rd in that draft. Probably goes 2nd after Ingram.

Interesting question. Prob fourth behind brown Ingram and Murray?

Duke4life831 wrote:Yes. Fans are no doubt lower on him than NBA front offices are. This is also coming from the main Ingram>Simmons from back in 2016.

There is no doubt he doesn’t go anywhere lower than 3rd in that draft. Probably goes 2nd after Ingram.

I don’t know… If you offered Simmons straight up for Brown, would the Celtics take it? Would the nuggets for Murray?

Hell f*cking yes. He would still be the 1st overall pick.

Don't act stupid. This is a really bad troll attempt.

I think Morey is being Morey with his requests, but I'd still take ben over every single player on that list.

SUPERVILLAIN wrote:Hell f*cking yes. He would still be the 1st overall pick.

Don't act stupid. This is a really bad troll attempt.

You would take Simmons over Brown or Ingram?
Jog on buddy.

I have zero doubt NBA teams still see the enormous potential of Simmons. He’s still the best player here m this list.

Does a guy who won't shoot 3s go top 25 in a 2016 re-draft?

SUPERVILLAIN wrote:Hell f*cking yes. He would still be the 1st overall pick.

Don't act stupid. This is a really bad troll attempt.

Oh lordy, mate you got some blinders on.

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Kordic27 wrote:

Duke4life831 wrote:Yes. Fans are no doubt lower on him than NBA front offices are. This is also coming from the main Ingram>Simmons from back in 2016.

There is no doubt he doesn’t go anywhere lower than 3rd in that draft. Probably goes 2nd after Ingram.

I don’t know… If you offered Simmons straight up for Brown, would the Celtics take it? Would the nuggets for Murray?

All depends on the fit. Simmons and Jokic don’t fit that well. But in a vacuum yes I think Simmons has higher trade value than Murray.

I think it’s close between the top 3 guys when it comes to Ingram/Simmons/Brown.

Guys I take over Simmons:
Ingram
Brown
J Murray
Sabonis (debatable)
Siakam

Yes. Only taking Ingram and Brown over him cause they still can get better and they're pretty good right now. The rest of those guys have ceilings to me of really really good role players but nothing more. I'm not as high on Siakam and Murray as others are so yes even them too.

I'm taking at least 3 or 4 guys over him....Brown, Murray, Ingram for sure...then you can make a case for Siakam, Sabonis

I see a bunch of borderline all-stars at best that no GM would take over Ben Simmons.

I've got him at 5 or 6, right there with Sabonis. Clearly behind: Brown, Ingram, Murray, and Siakam.

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Tier 1
Brown
Ingram

Tier 2

J Murray
Simmons
Siakam
Sabonis

Tier 3

Brodgon
D Murray

Tier 4

Hield
LeVert

Ben is good at a lot of things, but he refuses to do the most important thing: shoot.

I think Ingram might be a bit overrated

He's not a bad player his coaches have just been idiotic and he's an awful fit with Embiid...

for sure. all you have to do is give him confidence and hold him accountable.