AMW27 wrote:If Parker and Ginobili were as good as some people say then Duncan should have retired winning more than what he did. I to me they're not all time great players like some like to describe them.
If Parker does get in the Hall of Fame while not playing for the Spurs, I don't believe it will be a for sure lock.
the thing is the team outside the big 3 was often very weak, especially from 08 onwards when bowen lost a step; the teams that won were the ones with good support. But even when they were winning titles they had players like francisco elson and fabricio oberto getting important minutes. they eventually hit gold with danny green off the d league, drafted hill and turned him into kawhi, and got back into contention. between age and rs+ about 2 playoff series every year + international play, it becomes more rare to have all 3 healthy at the same time. techincally parker and manu never played with peak duncan, he was already on one leg when they arrived (though still good enough to be the teams best player for another 5 years and an excellent 2nd-3rd banana for another 9).
also there was a thread recently i didnt post in questioning why they didnt win more or repeat, well its an unpopular answer but at least in part its pop. 2004, phil jackson adjusted to tony parker killing them inside and forced hedo turkoglu to beat them, pop had manu sitting in the corner. 06, spurs played big all season then went small vs dallas and got killed by devin harris and josh howard. 08, let peja kill the spurs until finally adjusting, team ran out of gas after 7 game battle. 11, sat manu out of game 1, lost HCA and the series. 12, outcoached by scott brooks. 13, sat duncan and didnt foul. 15 outcoached by doc's high double screen, abused hack a jordan.
Pop has great leadership and management qualities but gameplans, adjustments and so on there's many coaches id take over him, people will say he evolved well i think he that happened because manu and tony were pushing him.
