Stalwart wrote:coastalmarker99 wrote:Lebron has basically single-handedly carried Lottery level teams to the finals in 2007 and 2018 and to the playoffs in 2009 and 2010.
The Cavs record with Lebron in 2018 was 50 wins and 32 losses.
The Cavs record without Lebron in 2019, once he left for LA, was 19 wins and 63 losses
That is a 31 win difference in the space of one year all because Lebron left.
The Cavs record was 61 wins and 21 losses in 2010.
However, the Cavs record without Lebron in 2011 once he left to Miami was 19 wins and 63 losses
That is a 42 win difference in the space of one year all because Lebron left for Miami.
Yes, but we all know Lebron guts franchises before he leaves them.
Exactly. That is the dumbest argument ever used to prop someone up, when we all know how he forced every team he ran to to selll off their future and talent for "win now" guys. He joined #1 pick Kyrie Irving and a forced a trade of two other #1 picks to Minnesota for then-superstar in Kevin Love. He could have chosen to develop Wiggins, but he has not once in his career helped a young player as MJ helped Pippen. No mention of that in the pathetic posts about how bad the franchises were when he left, lol. What did he do to the Lakers after he ridiculously failed to even make the playoffs in his first year, without superstar help? Forced them to sell off all their talent (except for Kuzma) , forced the league and new orleans to break a valid contact to allow AD to join him. Two 1st team all NBA players collude to play together but his stans claim its not a superteam. Surprisingly they win the title and its all LeBron, of course. Asterisk big time.
When he leaves, and AD leaves, the Lakers will be terrible again. But of course his stans will claim that is beacuse of his greatness, not the moves he forced upon them.
Theres a reason KD said theres a toxic atmosphere around him. He is literally toxic for the franchises that deal with him. Thankfully it'll soon be over.