Ambrose wrote: FNQ wrote:
What do you think of natural immunity?
That’s a really general question, can go many ways with it. In regards to what?
Do you think it's an acceptable substitute for being vaccinated or being subjected to continued testing? Under the assumption that there is proof of antibodies.
Well first off, no need to assume. There are antibodies even in weak cases, but how effective they are.. totally case by case. Will circle back
So there are 2 answers to the main question. From a scientific standpoint, yes. The odds are in your favor that if you've had a strong case of COVID in the past, its a more than acceptable substitute. The problem is that we don't have any way of measuring it, and people immune systems have an insanely wide range of strengths and outcomes. We could have the exact same viral load of COVID, exact same timeframe, exact same treatment, and you could develop strong antibodies that mean youll never catch COVID again, while my body could create extremely weak (usually over specialized, like an overcorrection) antibodies. That said I'd say its better than a coin flip that you would develop immunity on par, or better, than a vaccine.
From a societal standpoint, no. And the reasoning is simple - the vaccine is safe, it stacks with natural immunity, and we are not winning the battle right now. COVID has taken 18 months from us and there's no short-term guarantees its going anywhere. Our bodies could fight off a cold without medicine, but Nyquil will erase it quicker. No difference here.
If people choose not to get vaxxed, that's fine. But here's what shouldn't be done:
- bitching if it precludes you from jobs/events that insist on the maximum amount of safety for the people they are responsible for
- citing bunk ass reasoning to try and convince others to follow in their footsteps
Ultimately, this goes back to a phrase older than dirt: Salus populi suprema lex esto
- the health of the people is the supreme law. Because with contagions, the butterfly effect is real, and one person deciding that its no big deal can have a domino impact that destroys a family. And most people just don't want to think about that kind of thing, but it is what it is.
As much as people believe they would never be so careless, they always are. And since it would be way over the top to instill an actual mandate for people to get vaccinated, the next best thing is to allow local authorities and/or private entities to protect their people.
I have the.. "benefit".. of seeing people who regretted their decisions way too late. This was pre-vaccine, but a guy who claimed he didn't think COVID was that serious initially was really sick finally got cleared for a ventilator, at 3am. He knew the risks - at the time, most people put on them never came back. He wanted to facetime his family.. and he was told that if we hesitated on the ventilator someone else might get it and his chances were minimal. Predictable end to this
So if people want to justify reasoning for not being max protected and ending this as soon as they can, go for it. Just don't make any **** up about it, and maybe weigh the risks of getting jabbed or not. Because I guarantee you if people are really honest about it, its no contest