Re: 2021-22 Rookie Thread
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:42 pm
Bouknight is averaging 17 points a game on 20 minutes, playing with the starters
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amcoolio wrote:Bouknight is averaging 17 points a game on 20 minutes, playing with the starters
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The_Hater wrote:God Squad wrote:The_Hater wrote:
Except Barnes isn’t an underrated offensive player. Probably overrated because while he’s atheltic and can handle and pass, he can’t shoot to save his life right now. It’s WIP. Very Simmons-like but not as good yet.
I’m excited for his future too but a lot of Raps fans are getting ahead of themselves at this point.
100% he can't shoot. But as basketball fans we should know theres more to the game than that, especially early on when trying to earn minutes with your coach. He won't be a good scorer this year, but I'm nearly positive either he or Mobley will lead ALL rookies in impact stats. Barnes just knows how to lead an offense and get reb/assist/stls/blks with minimum turnovers. If Barnes can average 10ppg while continuing to be a beast in other categories I'd consider that a win.
I'll 100% take "Simmons-lite but not as good yet" except more of a willing shooter as rookie any day of the week.
No argument about anything you wrote here, but without a jumper defenses aren’t going to allow him to get to the rim and use his passing. He’ll be a fullcourt threat snd that’s about it.
amcoolio wrote:Bouknight is averaging 17 points a game on 20 minutes, playing with the starters
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The_Hater wrote:everdiso wrote:everdiso wrote:
Free Throw Shooting:
College Month 1: 7gms, 42.3%
College Months 2-4: 17gms, 74.7%
Summer League: 4gms, 75.0%
Preseason: 4gms, 66.7%
Updated:
Free Throw Shooting:
College Month 1: 7gms, 42.3%
College Months 2-4: 17gms, 74.7%
Summer League: 4gms, 75.0%
Preseason: 5gms, 71.4%
You do realize those are still poor FT% numbers right? The league average was 77.8% last season. Improvement is encouraging, even though you cherry picked 7 poor games to make some sort of point. but the conversation was about where his shooting is at today, not 2 years from now.
But thanks for helping prove my post instead of yours. You’re trying way to hard on this bud, you’re obsessed at this point. We disagree and I really don’t respect your opinions so Bye and Good luck to you.
rapz101 wrote:The_Hater wrote:God Squad wrote:100% he can't shoot. But as basketball fans we should know theres more to the game than that, especially early on when trying to earn minutes with your coach. He won't be a good scorer this year, but I'm nearly positive either he or Mobley will lead ALL rookies in impact stats. Barnes just knows how to lead an offense and get reb/assist/stls/blks with minimum turnovers. If Barnes can average 10ppg while continuing to be a beast in other categories I'd consider that a win.
I'll 100% take "Simmons-lite but not as good yet" except more of a willing shooter as rookie any day of the week.
No argument about anything you wrote here, but without a jumper defenses aren’t going to allow him to get to the rim and use his passing. He’ll be a fullcourt threat snd that’s about it.
I disagree with you here.
While Scottie has obvious work to do with his shooting, he can definitely be useful in the half-court in a plethora of ways. He directs traffic much like Marc Gasol did in his time with us. He also gives the raptors another reliable ball handler in the half-court; granted I would not want the ball to be stopped the moment it touches his hands, but his movements with the ball often times results in some form of offense being generated. We haven't seen him roll to the basket much, but I'm sure we will see elements of this during the season. For a rookie, he doesn't really get his game sped up by the defense, usually plays within himself. These are all notable skills that will allow him to be useful in half-court basketball.
Kids going to make mistakes, but I think you're a little too dismissive on what he can provide right now.
Jadoogar wrote:rapz101 wrote:The_Hater wrote:
No argument about anything you wrote here, but without a jumper defenses aren’t going to allow him to get to the rim and use his passing. He’ll be a fullcourt threat snd that’s about it.
I disagree with you here.
While Scottie has obvious work to do with his shooting, he can definitely be useful in the half-court in a plethora of ways. He directs traffic much like Marc Gasol did in his time with us. He also gives the raptors another reliable ball handler in the half-court; granted I would not want the ball to be stopped the moment it touches his hands, but his movements with the ball often times results in some form of offense being generated. We haven't seen him roll to the basket much, but I'm sure we will see elements of this during the season. For a rookie, he doesn't really get his game sped up by the defense, usually plays within himself. These are all notable skills that will allow him to be useful in half-court basketball.
Kids going to make mistakes, but I think you're a little too dismissive on what he can provide right now.
I think Draymond is the best example here. Green can't shoot at all but he's still so useful due to his passing and energy. The warriors offense is notably better when Green is on the floor.
Duffman100 wrote:So Scottie Barnes Preseason stats,
9.8 points, 4.8 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 1.2 steals, 1.2 blocks.
Not too shabby at all.
Duffman100 wrote:So Scottie Barnes Preseason stats,
9.8 points, 4.8 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 1.2 steals, 1.2 blocks.
Not too shabby at all.
God Squad wrote:Since Suggs isn't getting any love in this thread I want to give him some credit. I watched the Celtics(best game) and Spurs game and came away very underwhelmed in certain factors such as handle(is he even a pg?) and jumper. But Suggs is going to be a terror defensively for guards. He just knows how to use his body to make it difficult for them. He also shows an innate ability to get blocks around the rim, be in man or help defense. He's going to be a crazy good defender in the league me thinks.
He had like two blocks at the rim on Tatum! It just sucks that I came away more impressed with Mo Bamba than Suggs from those games. I think Mo's going to have a huge year with Vuc gone.
Its early, but I think Franz was a bad or suspect pick at 8. Magic need scoring so I probably would have gone Bouk.
DroseReturnChi wrote:Duffman100 wrote:So Scottie Barnes Preseason stats,
9.8 points, 4.8 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 1.2 steals, 1.2 blocks.
Not too shabby at all.
just screams mr triple single. i would imgaine dray is his role model father figure.