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We are at the point now that we should acknowledge that LeBron deserves extra credit for being able to lead a team to a championship while carrying Kyrie on the roster. Kyrie's career has been filled with drama and losing outside of the 3 years he played with LeBron. It's a testament to LeBron's leadership skills that he was able to get Kyrie to buy into the program and behave like a winning player. Kyrie has played 7 years in his career without LeBron and only has 2 playoff wins to show for it. So much for Kyrie being a "super teammate."

Also, those Cleveland team with Irving and Love minus Lebron had a lottery winning percentage.

kbitboc wrote:Also, those Cleveland team with Irving and Love minus Lebron had a lottery winning percentage.

I remember in the finals, every time Lebron went to the bench...They looked like a lottery team lol

Lol no he doesn’t, Kyrie wasn’t a woke god back then

Of all the crazy **** Kyrie has done, demanding a trade from the King was the craziest.

He doesn’t need credit as Kyrie is a talented player, but Kyrie’s career post-Cavs has shown that LeBron wasn’t the cancer everyone portrayed him to be back when Kyrie demanded a trade.

thebigbird wrote:He doesn’t need credit as Kyrie is a talented player, but Kyrie’s career post-Cavs has shown that LeBron wasn’t the cancer everyone portrayed him to be back when Kyrie demanded a trade.

Trust, Nobody thought Lebron was a cancer back when Kyrie demanded a trade, he had three rings up to that point

Kyrie thoroughly outplayed the unanimous MVP over the course of a 7 game finals series. Let's not diminish what he did on the court because of his off the court issues.

He’s the Tom Cruise/Kanye West of basketball

Kyrie was available and playing, and still trying to secure generational wealth. I don’t think Kyrie was playing basketball because of any super power LeBron had over him.

This is just getting absurd. Kyrie was absolutely ridiculous in every Finals he played in and his run in 2016 was the best performance by a Bron co-star until AD last year. Definitely wouldn't have won that title without him.

Kyrie averaged 31 PPG on 51/47/95 shooting from games 3-7. And hit the series winning shot in game 7.

Lebron has carried a lot of sub par players to championships

He’s also won with stars who was in their or out of prime and fell off quick.

Look at Bosh, Wade, Thompson, Love and Irving, Big Z, Hughes etc etc.

The before and after effect. Even roleplayers

Let’s be honest Delly is a hot potato lol

He really is the GOAT floor raiser.

I mean some lists without is such a bad bad team like number one pick convo lotto bad.

Kyrie literally hit the clutch game 7 shot to win a championship, weird stretch. Being a piece of **** anti vaxxer doesn't change his ability, just like when LeBron was hesitant to get the jab.

kyrie wasntt like this in cleveland. he was a model citizen.
maybe ainge screwed kyries inner mind.

We are all witnesses

Lebron led the Finals in all 5 statistical categories. Lebron deserves a ton of credit for winning in 2016.

As far as Kyrie, Kyrie is a great secondary star. The Nets win the championship last year if he doesn't go down. Kyrie is a great basketball player, but just a very weird dude. He also isn't consistently reliable. He has missed the end of the season 3 of the last 4 years for his team. This could be a blessing in disguise for Brooklyn if they can trade him for some good pieces.



I will also take a position I don't think anyone has taken. Just playing Kyrie for road games might not be the worst move. Kyrie always gets hurt so should be load managed. You wouldn't have to pay him for home games, so it isn't like you are getting half the games for his full salary. He's probably going to get hurt at some point anyway, might as well load manage him and that wouldn't be the worst way to do it.

Yeah LeBron deserves credit for playing with a guy who averaged 30 in consecutive Finals and made the greatest clutch shot in NBA history.

Poor LeBron. Give me a break.

If Kyrie doesn't have an all time great Finals with LeBron he never wins one in Cleveland. And hes not in the GOAT discussion.

Why does he deserve credit because he played with someone that was ultra talented and was able to be a leader to him? Doesn’t that come with being a leader? Getting pieces to fit and leading them?

FreeSpiritNY wrote:Why does he deserve credit because he played with someone that was ultra talented and was able to be a leader to him? Doesn’t that come with being a leader? Getting pieces to fit and leading them?

For managing the headcase and drama queen Irving is