DCasey91 wrote: HotelVitale wrote:
HumbleRen wrote: Nah, He's more like a 6'8 Ricky Rubio.
Careful there. Giddey is very under-athletic for a PG--he has no burst and his vertical is weak for the NBA--and he doesn't have freak-ish vision and creation ability. So he's not too much like MCW or Rubio as prospects. He's tall, has a serviceable handle, and grew up a playmaker who can make passes around the whole court. He can hit spot up shots okay (though his form is pretty ugly, sort of a set shot with weird footwork) but his best skill is making use of gaps and good timing to create for himself and others. He'll take a gap off a pick and work that well, take a lane if he gets it, and also uses starts and stops to manipulate the defense some. He's pretty aggressive and competes too. Not quite sure who his comparison would be, I chose current Hayward because his size and passing make him a dangerous driver/pn'r player despite not having much athleticism, but he's more of a point than a wing scorer so that's not a tight fit. He'd also score much more through driving and spot-ups (rather than off the bounce shots) than Hayward.
Cade is more like Hayward (without the burst or savvy offensive vet play) or Paul Pierce but once again I’m not high on his lack of footwork. Hayward was a stud muffin pre injury
I mean a 6”8” Rubio is still a good player. His athleticism will be fine on offense because he’s 6”8” and will probably end up bigger and taller than Lamelo (though he’s much more zippy and athletic and will be a better defender has his brothers active defensive traits, along with shooting/scoring)..
All comps are lazy and inadequate but this comp was with current Hayward, and specifically about the way he drives and creates for others despite limited athleticism (but with a height advantage for the position). That said, Hayward is still mostly a slick shooter--got one of the purer jumpers in the game--so I don't want to make a comp to their overall games, and Giddey is clearly more willing to hold the ball and manipulate the D as he's driving (point guard style) rather than just drive and kick.
Also yeah a 6'8 Rubio who could shoot open jumpers would be a nice player, but Giddey isn't close to rookie Rubio in terms of passing/pn'r wizardy--Giddey is a nice passer who sees most of the court when he has space to survey it
. And he also doesn't have his handle or quickness. I don't think that comparison is helpful at all.
Guess I'll got with a more aggressive Kyle Anderson, worse on defense but quicker to attack and more eager to create more for himself and others. Call him Fast-Mo.