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Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:31 am
by GrindCityHustle
Dude is a defensive beast...yet teams don't want him?
I was kinda po'ed that the Grizz waived him and kept Merrill. Dunn is like the new age Tony Allen
Could it be locker room stuff?
Thoughts on if this is just temp or is he headed overseas?
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:45 am
by lambchop
Tony Allen's defensive highlights came against guys like Klay, KD, LBJ. I don't think the same can be said about Dunn. He isn't that impactful against elite players and offensively he's a liability. Going overseas would probably help expand his game. I'd love to see him back in the nba afterwards.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:51 am
by Richard4444
I think he uses tô risk too much going for steals leaving his Man open. Aldo he is not a great shooter
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:43 am
by SimonFish
Because he is likes to play on the ball even though his playing style is much better off playing off the ball, i.e., his best role is a Tony Allen type player but he wants to play like AI / DWade. Probably due to the fact that he was drafted high and hence couldn't adjust his mentality.
Also, injuries don't help. Except his rookie season, he never played more than 52 games per season (2019-20 was shortened by COVID but he still missed 20% of playable games). And I suspect he lost some of his pace and athleticism after the serious injury he suffered last year.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:19 pm
by GimmeDat
I had a soft spot for Dunn when he played for us. He flashed some big games and is a dog on defence. That said, he just does not space the floor, and his floor game was too hit and miss (TO wise) to be an initiator on the ball. It kind of leaves him without an offensive role on a decent team, and he's not super elite/versatile positionally on defence to be a flat out specialist.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:29 pm
by Tetlak
Dunn destroys your offense way too much. Teams literally ignore him. It's not worth playing 4 on 5.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:35 pm
by MaceCase
Injuries sapped him of a lot of his defensive mobility then killed whatever little offensive game he had.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:46 pm
by brutalitops
Ankles
Cant facilitate
Cant hit an open 3
Cant hit a layup
Good defender but gambles a lot, When you play with guys like Rubio/Morant/Young with obvious defensive holes you want your other guard defender playing within himself and doing the team thing,
So WHILE Dunn is a good defender, He's a dumb one, absolute liability on offense, injury prone and was moved because Atlanta would rather pay some stud wings 10m a season then Dunn 5m a season
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:54 pm
by HoopsterJones
He’s a very good defender, but gets into foul trouble often because of his aggressive play. He can be a solid role player off the bench.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:44 pm
by The Rainmaker
GrindCityHustle wrote:Dude is a defensive beast...yet teams don't want him?
I was kinda po'ed that the Grizz waived him and kept Merrill. Dunn is like the new age Tony Allen
Could it be locker room stuff?
Thoughts on if this is just temp or is he headed overseas?
Keeping Merrill was fine. He can at least knock down 3s and played his way into a roster spot in the preseason. Culver was the guy that should've been cut. Has never been good and was trash for the Grizzlies in the preseason and shootingwise he's worse than Dunn. I guess Dunn not being able to play because of a dental procedure really hurt his chances. But yeah the Grizzlies don't have 3rd point guard and need a 3rd point more than they need a 5th shooting guard which is what Culver is.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:02 pm
by BlazersBroncos
I agree that MEM should have kept him over Culver, who isnt a NBA caliber player.
Dunn is a better defender and shooter than Culver.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:12 pm
by Tetlak
BlazersBroncos wrote:I agree that MEM should have kept him over Culver, who isnt a NBA caliber player.
Dunn is a better defender and shooter than Culver.
The only player Kris Dunn is conceivably a better shooter than is Ben Simmons.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:18 pm
by The Rainmaker
Tetlak wrote:BlazersBroncos wrote:I agree that MEM should have kept him over Culver, who isnt a NBA caliber player.
Dunn is a better defender and shooter than Culver.
The only player Kris Dunn is conceivably a better shooter than is Ben Simmons.
Dunn is a better shooter than Culver though. Dunn has at least a couple season where he made over 30% of his 3s. Culver can't even do that.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:29 pm
by HotelVitale
I really like Dunn but it makes sense he doesn't really have a role in the NBA rn. The things he does are more noticeable and look cooler than the things most deep rotation guys do, and he's always looked the part of a great NBA player (impressive athleticism, strength, length, handle, sick crossover etc). But at the end of the day the things he does well are just not as impactful as what other rotational options do. His athleticism and size still translate into being a lower-volume creator for himself and others and he also can't play any semblance of a 3D type role because of his shot, and his athleticism hasn't translated into high-volume finishing either.
NBA players are really good is my main take away. A dude like Georges Niang or Garrett Temple doesn't look as impressive but they're actually really really good at what they do and the total output happens to be better than Dunn's package now.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:34 pm
by DroseReturnChi
hes trash. only defense is good would have been all star 50 yrs ago.
some stupid draft comparisons were dwade he has no offense whatsoever. and 0 lift with avg athleticism.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:41 pm
by JujitsuFlip
The dude is hurt all the time.
Re: Kris Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:05 pm
by Eric Bieniemy
He's Randy Brown and that's the role he needs -- playing on a defensive team as a fourth guard who plays with an offensive third guard (like Steve Kerr) who is more questionable on defense.