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Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:26 pm
by GSWFan1994
Worth a read: link.

They also published the PGs, SGs and SFs lists, you can find them at the link above.

Here's the list:

1. Tim Duncan
2. Karl Malone
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Giannis Antetokounmpo
6. Charles Barkley
7. Bob Pettit
8. Elvin Hayes
9. Anthony Davis
10. Kevin McHale
11. Pau Gasol
12. Dolph Schayes
13. Dennis Rodman
14. Draymond Green
15. Chris Webber
16. Jerry Lucas
17. Bobby Jones
18. Dave DeBusschere
19. Rasheed Wallace
20. LaMarcus Aldridge

Some brief commentary from me:

- Good list at the top 4/5, you can't really escape from these names

- Will Giannis reach number 1 when it's all said & done? I think he has a good chance to reach 2, dunno about 1.

- Pettit & Hayes have become underrated over time.

- Davis seems extremely high at first glance, though if you look at the names after him, he's somewhat properly placed.

- Bobby Jones over Dave DeBusschere is plain wrong, and I say that as a Jones absolute, inconditional fan.

- No Chris Bosh is surprising & confusing.

Cheers & discuss.

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:27 pm
by timO
Green? wtf?

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:27 pm
by Bornstellar
I'd probably put Malone at 5 and move everyone above that a spot up, and I'd switch Davis with Gasol. Not bad otherwise

Actually I'd put Dirk #2 and then Giannis at #3, KG at #4

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:27 pm
by Lockdown504090
dont see any reason to not have freak at 3rd at least. If rasheed wallace gave a rats ass about his legacy or all time anything he could have easily been where pau is. guy was so talented.

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:28 pm
by Sothron
They have Pettit and McHale way too low. Dirk was nowhere near as good as them.

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:29 pm
by UcanUwill
I heard Kevin Love is better than 99% of these guys

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:34 pm
by Eric Bieniemy
Larry Bird should be one.

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:37 pm
by eminence
Schayes is the one that stands out to me as notably underrated. I'd probably have him #8. I'm lower on Malone than that as well, I'd probably have him #4. Giannis behind Barkley (maybe even Pettit) for now, though closing.

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:38 pm
by wojoaderge
Pettit should be top 5 and Schayes top 10. But not bad actually

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:38 pm
by matt6715
Somebody call JJ Reddick since Love isnt on here

My top 5 personally:

1. Duncan
2. Dirk (for now)
3. Giannis (will pass Dirk with nothing other than longevity at this point)
4. KG
5. Malone

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:39 pm
by Wolfgang630
Pretty good list

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:39 pm
by Texas Chuck
timO wrote:Green? wtf?



Should be higher, I agree.

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:45 pm
by BoatsNZones
timO wrote:Green? wtf?

Casual.


Solid list overall.

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:45 pm
by bbalnation
Are they hoping Bosh responds, since hes retired and he has replied to disrespectful stuff before?

I mean, how else do you explain putting a guy like Bobby Jones, who averaged 14 and 9 in his peak, and 12 and 6 over his career?

If you want to pay homage to the people of the past, do so. But don't make a mockery of it in hopes for clicks (Hoopshype, not OP).

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:47 pm
by GSWFan1994
bbalnation wrote:Are they hoping Bosh responds, since hes been known to one to do so?

I mean, how else do you explain putting a guy like Bobby Jones, who averaged 14 and 9 in his peak, and 12 and 6 over his career?

If you want to pay homage to the people of the past, do so. But don't make a mockery of it in hopes for clicks (Hoopshype, not OP).


Maybe they considered Bosh as a C (the C's list is not out yet).

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:47 pm
by Whopper_Sr
Duncan is a center..

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:49 pm
by bbalnation
GSWFan1994 wrote:
bbalnation wrote:Are they hoping Bosh responds, since hes been known to one to do so?

I mean, how else do you explain putting a guy like Bobby Jones, who averaged 14 and 9 in his peak, and 12 and 6 over his career?

If you want to pay homage to the people of the past, do so. But don't make a mockery of it in hopes for clicks (Hoopshype, not OP).


Maybe they considered Bosh as a C (the C's list is not out yet).


Oof maybe you're right. I was quick to judge. Thanks.

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:52 pm
by GSWFan1994
bbalnation wrote:Oof maybe you're right. I was quick to judge. Thanks.


I hope I'm wrong though, because I certainly don't consider Bosh as a C.

Cheers.

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:55 pm
by celticfan42487
Wow that's actually a fantastic list.

I think Dirk should be below Barkley and Greek Freak but I get one doesn't have a ring and the other is still young so out of respect they like to wait. So I get why out of respect they'd put Dirk that high.

Re: Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:56 pm
by celticfan42487
Whopper_Sr wrote:Duncan is a center..


Hmm yeah if they're going to list Bosh as a Center they sure as **** have to list Duncan as one lol