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GeorgeMarcus wrote:Mental health is getting worse for the public as a whole, so IMO it's just an extension of that rather than anything specific going on with the league. No doubt social media plays a part but again that is true for pretty much everybody on those platforms.

If anyone is considering it, I deleted social media about 6 months ago and have been noticeably happier/more productive as a result. Different strokes for different folks but that's been my experience.

styLesdavis wrote:Talking about "mental health" when a player swung at another player because they were down a few points against the pistons might not cut it. There are people who are dealing with heavy forms of depression on a daily basis so "being down on one day" should not be the same.

Don`t get me wrong. "Mental health" is important for everyone who is dealing with it but a depression isn`t something like "having a bad day" or "suffering from a break up".

GeorgeMarcus wrote:Mental health is getting worse for the public as a whole, so IMO it's just an extension of that rather than anything specific going on with the league. No doubt social media plays a part but again that is true for pretty much everybody on those platforms.

If anyone is considering it, I deleted social media about 6 months ago and have been noticeably happier/more productive as a result. Different strokes for different folks but that's been my experience.

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Saul Goodman wrote:

GeorgeMarcus wrote:Mental health is getting worse for the public as a whole, so IMO it's just an extension of that rather than anything specific going on with the league. No doubt social media plays a part but again that is true for pretty much everybody on those platforms.

If anyone is considering it, I deleted social media about 6 months ago and have been noticeably happier/more productive as a result. Different strokes for different folks but that's been my experience.

Can confirm. Getting away from social media has made me much happier and clearer of mind. You don’t even need to delete them per say if you just take it off your phone you won’t have a constant flow of crap hitting you 24/7

Y’all really deleted y’all social media? People also use it to keep in touch with family and friends as well. I do agree that it can be toxic sometimes but if I delete it I would feel like I’m out of the loop, feel like I may miss something.

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:Mental health is not getting worse than before, people are just more aware of it today. It's like cancer 1000 years ago. People still got cancer back then, they just did not know they actually died from cancer.

Just think about it. Being able to survive during the 1500s. Getting enough food was a huge challenge, having 10 children, 7 of them died before the age of one. Just think of that mental hell. You guys don't think they had mental health problems compared to our society today.

GeorgeMarcus wrote:Mental health is getting worse for the public as a whole, so IMO it's just an extension of that rather than anything specific going on with the league. No doubt social media plays a part but again that is true for pretty much everybody on those platforms.

If anyone is considering it, I deleted social media about 6 months ago and have been noticeably happier/more productive as a result. Different strokes for different folks but that's been my experience.

GeorgeMarcus wrote:

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:Mental health is not getting worse than before, people are just more aware of it today. It's like cancer 1000 years ago. People still got cancer back then, they just did not know they actually died from cancer.

Just think about it. Being able to survive during the 1500s. Getting enough food was a huge challenge, having 10 children, 7 of them died before the age of one. Just think of that mental hell. You guys don't think they had mental health problems compared to our society today.

It sounds like you are strictly speaking about 'stress' which is a different argument. Mental health has a lot more to do with cognitive/emotional disfunction than just being sad/scared/angry etc. There are a lot of studies that conclude mental health problems have skyrocketed because we're no longer consumed by survival instincts the way we had been for most of human evolution. There is a growing void in day-to-day life which didn't previously exist.

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GeorgeMarcus wrote:

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:Mental health is not getting worse than before, people are just more aware of it today. It's like cancer 1000 years ago. People still got cancer back then, they just did not know they actually died from cancer.

Just think about it. Being able to survive during the 1500s. Getting enough food was a huge challenge, having 10 children, 7 of them died before the age of one. Just think of that mental hell. You guys don't think they had mental health problems compared to our society today.

It sounds like you are strictly speaking about 'stress' which is a different argument. Mental health has a lot more to do with cognitive/emotional disfunction than just being sad/scared/angry etc. There are a lot of studies that conclude mental health problems have skyrocketed because we're no longer consumed by survival instincts the way we had been for most of human evolution. There is a growing void in day-to-day life which didn't previously exist.

You know it's funny I was watching a documentary on the uni bomber and he was pretty smart on where human beings were heading with technology. Basically saying we lost are survival instincts.

He was crazy smart but just hated liberals and started bombing professors.

GeorgeMarcus wrote:Mental health is getting worse for the public as a whole, so IMO it's just an extension of that rather than anything specific going on with the league. No doubt social media plays a part but again that is true for pretty much everybody on those platforms.

If anyone is considering it, I deleted social media about 6 months ago and have been noticeably happier/more productive as a result. Different strokes for different folks but that's been my experience.

bullsnewdynasty wrote:The lack of mental toughness exists in large part because most NBA players/professional athletes were coddled, told they were the greatest ever, and had people on their jock their whole life. Then when they encounter a shred of adversity they fold.

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CobraCommander wrote:If we are being honest, Mental health has always been an issue. If we want to know take it seriously, great.

But y’all think Dennis Rodman was mentally healthy? No social media, just drinking drugs women money and guns.


Jordan ain’t mentally healthy either....he just good enough at basketball to cover on his bad gambling addiction..

If y’all want to pretend like the stuff we seeing in the nba is new from a mental health perspective, I’ll play along.....but I know you know I know you know it’s always been like this.....not just nba but all over the world

Yes, we have been always had people with mental instability and we did not always handle it properly...however, imo, we do not raise our children to deal with life challenges like we did in the past.

We point out all the faults that happen in life but we have not built up enough fortitude to deal with setbacks. But that is how we are now. This is exactly the difference between Jordan and Lebron.

As you say, Jordan has a lot of mental issues as well...but how did he handle setbacks on the court? Did he go to social media? What was his reaction after losing over and over to the Pistons...he realized he had to get stronger and tougher, to withstand the challenges of his opponents. Then when Jordan finally overcomes his basketball demons, it showed that persistence, resilience lead to greater success.

Whereas Lebron, when he kept losing to the Celtics, he left and manipulated the system to get what he wanted. So then fans see that and say, "Yeah, why shouldn't he do that...why shouldn't Lebron use his position...his power to get what he wants. The end result was championships, so the end justifies the means."

But what it showed to Lebron and to the general public, is that if something is difficult, you can manipulate the situation to get what you want....immediately. This is what people do on social media...they use it to get immediate gratification, boost self-esteem, and validation. It does not matter how you do it, just do it.

What do you think young people would rather do...develop resilience over time or manipulate their environment immediately.....

I think Jordan being afforded Horace Grand and Scottie Pippen instead of Mo Williams had more to do with that scenario as opposed to your analysis.

Lockdown504090 wrote:it seems to be getting worse and worse by the year. To me, i see a lot of players struggling in this regard whether its malik beasly and wound up in jail, to markelle fultz, to ben simmons, and hell, even lebron james just swung on a player whos name he didnt know because he was crumbling under the pressure of being down to the pistons after getting blown out by boston.

these players are probably under the most pressure you can put an athelte under on an everyday basis, just due to how important 1 or two guys can be on the floor, the money, the negativity on social media and forums, and the 247 sports news cycle. I understand dealing with this is how they make all the money, but can you think ofs anything the players or the league can do to have less guys fall off the rails so often? it seems like the NBA is basically set up to drive players nuts right now, and the money wouldnt be there without it.

There are probably countless players dealing with issues and they are just introverted about it so I can only imagine how widespread this is.

hardenASG13 wrote:Dont feel any sympathy for nba players mental health. They live a life of luxury and their job is a dream come true to almost anyone who ever picked up a basketball. They dont have the stress of needing money for bills, having to work overtime to make ends meet, etc. They fly city to city where they are treated to luxury and a city and that pays a lot of money to come see them every night. They also can get any woman they want if they arent married in such cities.They can ignore social media if its bothering them (its true, you just dont have to open it up), or go the KD route and just say "you broke" to random idiots who trash them online. Its not a bad life.