Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?

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Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think? 

Post#1 » by Pelly24 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:54 am

Thread title. This is something I've been thinking about.
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Post#3 » by SlovenianDragon » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:04 am

I mean there are a TONNNN usually because of low bball IQ or a low motor.....
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Post#4 » by NRSV » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:09 am

They don’t know the “trick” to being a pro.

Billy Beane talked about this in moneyball. Some of the most talented players he encountered, including himself, just couldn’t put it all together. When other less talented players just happened to be in the right place at the right time, and had a sense of complete self belief that guided their games.
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Post#5 » by _qubik » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:11 am

Andrew Wiggins is the firts name that comes to my mind he could be a dominant player both ends of the floor with his athleticism
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Post#6 » by theforumblue » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:13 am

Because they aren't good at basketball.
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Post#7 » by HayKee » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:13 am

Dennis Smith Jr?
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Post#8 » by Golden Knight » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:18 am

Ibaka.

This dude can dunk from the FT line! He should have been a freak rebounder. Career best of just 8.8rpg and just 3 times above 8rpg. His best per36 rpg is also low at just 11rpg.
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Post#9 » by dc » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:46 am

Not a current player but I recall back in the day, when Doug Collins was an announcer just a few years after he coached the Pistons, that he once said on air that Allan Houston actually had a higher vertical leap than Grant Hill. It's not something people would've guessed.

But the above the rim game was never really a part of Houston's game.
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Post#10 » by ishoy123 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:49 am

SlovenianDragon wrote:I mean there are a TONNNN usually because of low bball IQ or a low motor.....


A lot also because they simply lacked basketball skills i.e. long athletic guys who couldn't shoot or post-up
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Post#11 » by mattao313 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:09 am

ishoy123 wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:I mean there are a TONNNN usually because of low bball IQ or a low motor.....


A lot also because they simply lacked basketball skills i.e. long athletic guys who couldn't shoot or post-up
Or can't dribble i think is the main reason

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Post#12 » by BostonCouchGM » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:19 am

HayKee wrote:Dennis Smith Jr?


this. Gerald Green too. And for all the success that Vince Carter had he should have been much better. He should have been at least Kobe's equal and MJ 2.0. He just lacked the killer instinct and desire to be a better all-around player on both ends. Bill Russell. The guy wasn't a very good basketball player despite being extremely blessed physically. He clearly didn't work on much of his game. But he got to camp underneath the basket where he could block shots and pull down rebounds against insurance salesman so he's apparently elite. Shaq let himself get fat and didn't work on his game either. He obviously used his gifts, especially when he was younger but he wasted a whole lot of talent. He should have retired as the 2nd best ever but it's hard to even have him in the top 10.
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Post#13 » by andyhop » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:37 am

Golden Knight wrote:Ibaka.

This dude can dunk from the FT line! He should have been a freak rebounder. Career best of just 8.8rpg and just 3 times above 8rpg. His best per36 rpg is also low at just 11rpg.


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Post#14 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:45 am

JJ Redick.
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Post#15 » by Lalouie » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:54 am

Pelly24 wrote:Thread title. This is something I've been thinking about.


",,,can't use their athleticism the way you think"

you're going to have to explain this, and an example would help. the nba chooses to promote itself on athleticism. it covets athleticism and prioritizes it. so what do you mean "can't use"
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Post#16 » by floppymoose » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:58 am

I think of players who need an extra beat to make a decision. Guys like Barnes and Wiggins.
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Post#17 » by Maxthirty » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:05 am

Javale McGee. Especially his younger days.

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Post#19 » by DroseReturnChi » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:24 am

wiggins, zach lavine, edwards all wolves.
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Post#20 » by SactoKingsFan » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:31 am

Sounds like Rudy Gay when he was younger.

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