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Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:54 am
by Pelly24
Thread title. This is something I've been thinking about.
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:58 am
by papajoe
Anthony Edwards.
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:04 am
by SlovenianDragon
I mean there are a TONNNN usually because of low bball IQ or a low motor.....
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:09 am
by NRSV
They don’t know the “trick” to being a pro.
Billy Beane talked about this in moneyball. Some of the most talented players he encountered, including himself, just couldn’t put it all together. When other less talented players just happened to be in the right place at the right time, and had a sense of complete self belief that guided their games.
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:11 am
by _qubik
Andrew Wiggins is the firts name that comes to my mind he could be a dominant player both ends of the floor with his athleticism
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:13 am
by theforumblue
Because they aren't good at basketball.
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:13 am
by HayKee
Dennis Smith Jr?
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:18 am
by Golden Knight
Ibaka.
This dude can dunk from the FT line! He should have been a freak rebounder. Career best of just 8.8rpg and just 3 times above 8rpg. His best per36 rpg is also low at just 11rpg.
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:46 am
by dc
Not a current player but I recall back in the day, when Doug Collins was an announcer just a few years after he coached the Pistons, that he once said on air that Allan Houston actually had a higher vertical leap than Grant Hill. It's not something people would've guessed.
But the above the rim game was never really a part of Houston's game.
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:49 am
by ishoy123
SlovenianDragon wrote:I mean there are a TONNNN usually because of low bball IQ or a low motor.....
A lot also because they simply lacked basketball skills i.e. long athletic guys who couldn't shoot or post-up
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:09 am
by mattao313
ishoy123 wrote:SlovenianDragon wrote:I mean there are a TONNNN usually because of low bball IQ or a low motor.....
A lot also because they simply lacked basketball skills i.e. long athletic guys who couldn't shoot or post-up
Or can't dribble i think is the main reason
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Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:19 am
by BostonCouchGM
HayKee wrote:Dennis Smith Jr?
this. Gerald Green too. And for all the success that Vince Carter had he should have been much better. He should have been at least Kobe's equal and MJ 2.0. He just lacked the killer instinct and desire to be a better all-around player on both ends. Bill Russell. The guy wasn't a very good basketball player despite being extremely blessed physically. He clearly didn't work on much of his game. But he got to camp underneath the basket where he could block shots and pull down rebounds against insurance salesman so he's apparently elite. Shaq let himself get fat and didn't work on his game either. He obviously used his gifts, especially when he was younger but he wasted a whole lot of talent. He should have retired as the 2nd best ever but it's hard to even have him in the top 10.
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:37 am
by andyhop
Golden Knight wrote:Ibaka.
This dude can dunk from the FT line! He should have been a freak rebounder. Career best of just 8.8rpg and just 3 times above 8rpg. His best per36 rpg is also low at just 11rpg.
Rebounding is much more about ability to anticipate and react than jumping ability
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:45 am
by 76ciology
JJ Redick.
Higher vertical jump than Andre Iguodala on pre-draft measurement
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:54 am
by Lalouie
Pelly24 wrote:Thread title. This is something I've been thinking about.
",,,can't use their athleticism the way you think"
you're going to have to explain this, and an example would help. the nba chooses to promote itself on athleticism. it covets athleticism and prioritizes it. so what do you mean "
can't use"
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:58 am
by floppymoose
I think of players who need an extra beat to make a decision. Guys like Barnes and Wiggins.
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:05 am
by Maxthirty
Javale McGee. Especially his younger days.
HM: Josh Smith
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:06 am
by bubonicphoniks
Rondae Hollis Jefferson
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:24 am
by DroseReturnChi
wiggins, zach lavine, edwards all wolves.
Re: Who Some Good Players Who are Great Athletes, but Can't Use Their Athleticism the way you'd think?
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:31 am
by SactoKingsFan
Sounds like Rudy Gay when he was younger.
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