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Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:05 pm
by OrangeBlueSkies
Listen, I know this is almost a non story, OBVIOUSLY the Blazers need to upgrade their roster. My question is, what does that say of Lillard's minset as far as playing with Embiid?
I'm also getting Harden vibes here... what happens if Portland trades CJ, and a few picks for Simmons, and it stil doesn't work out (ala Westbrook to the Rockets). Lillard will still want out and the Blazers will be in an even worse position. I say trade all your assets, gut the roster, start Dennis Smith Jr. and Simons, and build on the young dudes. Collect assets.
It seems that things in Portland are ready to implode...
Portland Trail Blazers star guard Damian Lillard would reportedly like his team to acquire Ben Simmons. Lillard is pushing the franchise to make significant roster changes, even in the wake of Portland firing Neil Olshey.
In the past, the Blazers and Philadelphia 76ers held discussions that involved moving guard C.J. McCollum, a first-round pick and a young player for Simmons. Talks stalled when Philadelphia asked for McCollum and multiple first-round picks and pick swaps.
Olshey was a fervent supporter of McCollum. Olshey considered McCollum to be "his" draft find and had been reluctant to trade the 30-year-old combo guard.
The Trail Blazers organization hopes that firing Olshey serves a reset for the franchise. With uncertainty looming over Lillard's future, there is a thought the team may look to make changes to keep their star committed to Portland.
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:09 pm
by mademan
CJ+ 2 lightly protected/unprotects 1st round picks. Not ideal for Philly, but they stay competitive in an open league while getting some future assets to help upgrade the roster later on
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:12 pm
by Dzon Dilindzer
its very simple, blazers needs to go all-in
everybody except dame should be on the trade block in order to improve the team and if that fails miserably, we trade everybody and go into full rebuild and i think thats exactly whats gonna happen, new gm will make sure to do so
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:14 pm
by TheNewEra
Have to believe CJ will feel some type of way about this news
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:14 pm
by Fresh_Prince12
Ben for CJ seems fair. Philly needs to just get past this and get someone who can help Embiid
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:15 pm
by Quattro
I guess GM Dame hasn’t been following the reports on what Morey is asking for in return for Simmons.
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:22 pm
by TheNewEra
Feels like a three team deal for it to have a chance. Can Curry and/or Maxey fit with CJ?
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:33 pm
by Sixersftw
TheNewEra wrote:Feels like a three team deal for it to have a chance. Can Curry and/or Maxey fit with CJ?
Nope. Thats a lot of small and/or bad defenders on the perimeter. I agree that a 3rd team would have to be involved
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:35 pm
by Lunartic
Yeah more like HE wants to be traded for Ben Simmons
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:37 pm
by Hipster Doofus
Hey Dame, bring yo ass over to Philly and convince Ben to stay. Imagine Ben + Dame + Embiid on the same team
Portland, we shall gift you Tobias + Thybulle + Shake + picks and you will say thank you very much.
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:40 pm
by JRoy
Canadian6ersFan wrote:Hey Dame, bring yo ass over to Philly and convince Ben to stay. Imagine Ben + Dame + Embiid on the same team
Portland, we shall gift you Tobias + Thybulle + Shake + picks and you will say thank you very much.
Agreed.
PHI just needs to send over 3 lotto picks and were good.
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:42 pm
by Wilfried
Canadian6ersFan wrote:Hey Dame, bring yo ass over to Philly and convince Ben to stay. Imagine Ben + Dame + Embiid on the same team
Portland, we shall gift you Tobias + Thybulle + Shake + picks and you will say thank you very much.
We will have to add Maxey
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:57 pm
by dhsilv2
TheNewEra wrote:Feels like a three team deal for it to have a chance. Can Curry and/or Maxey fit with CJ?
Yes....but one's clearly coming off the bench and it's not optimal..
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:59 pm
by PhilBlackson
One problem....Morey.
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:01 pm
by OrangeBlueSkies
JRoy wrote:Canadian6ersFan wrote:Hey Dame, bring yo ass over to Philly and convince Ben to stay. Imagine Ben + Dame + Embiid on the same team
Portland, we shall gift you Tobias + Thybulle + Shake + picks and you will say thank you very much.
Agreed.
PHI just needs to send over 3 lotto picks and were good.
See, this makes sense to me. Philly loads up on draft picks, which should entice Portland, and in return Philly gets back the aging STUD. 2-3 years of serious contention for Philadelphia.
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:10 pm
by TheNewEra
Sixersftw wrote:TheNewEra wrote:Feels like a three team deal for it to have a chance. Can Curry and/or Maxey fit with CJ?
Nope. Thats a lot of small and/or bad defenders on the perimeter. I agree that a 3rd team would have to be involved
Then you have Green and Thybulle but still have to clear the glut with Shake and Furkan. Simmons does seem likely to end up in Portland even with all that in mind
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:11 pm
by GSWFan1994
Question for Portland fans: does the team own all its future 1st round picks?
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:24 pm
by Wilfried
GSWFan1994 wrote:Question for Portland fans: does the team own all its future 1st round picks?
This year's pick is lotto protected, otherwise going to Chicago (Larry Nance trade) apparently
To be honest, for Portland, Simmons would be an incredible upgrade and asset, if you look at their needs.
But just don't see why Philadelphia would take CJ, or they can move him to another team
But a lot of picks (3 minimum) and Anfernee Simons (upgrade over Milton) should be attached
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:25 pm
by Pointgod
Shouldn’t we be applauding Dame for wanting to stay and make his team better?
Re: Damian Lillard Wants Portland To Trade For Benjamin Simmons
Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:26 pm
by Flash4thewin
PhilBlackson wrote:One problem....Morey.
How? Simmons won't come cheap, we all knew that. Morey has held to his guns and will get a lions share return if and when a trade happens. Look at the draft picks the Nets gave up to get Harden, that sounds like the foundation of a trade. Honestly I think it should be the other way around, it makes more sense to trade Lillard and get him on the 76ers, that way he has a real chance to compete.