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Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Tue Dec 7, 2021 9:31 pm
by WestGOAT
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I decided to brush up on my coding skills and collected regular-season scoring data from 1952 till the current season data for individual players. Ultimately, I would like to do historical comparisons between specific players. For example Kareem vs Wilt.

For now, I have plotted the scoring numbers for all players that played at least 24 MPG on average this season (2021-2022).
The transparent grey lines correspond to median values for the respective stat (Pointsper100 and TS%).

I did not realize that Montrez has been killing it. Furthermore this graph proves that Trae Young has become a better scorer than Luka :wink:

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Tue Dec 7, 2021 9:54 pm
by JujitsuFlip
Wow, good work man.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Tue Dec 7, 2021 11:00 pm
by Doranku
If only the Cavs had anyone other than the worst scorer in the league starting at the 2 spot...

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 12:26 am
by Grodoboldo
Doranku wrote:If only the Cavs had anyone other than the worst scorer in the league starting at the 2 spot...


As a Bulls fan, I'm really curious to see Markannen at the 2. I mean, it's a morbid curiosity, but it still counts.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 12:35 am
by zimpy27
Really cool work.

I would be really interested to see FGA (or FGA+FTA*0.44) per 100 on the Y-axis rather than Points. I want to know who is shooting, their efficiency and who should be shooting more/less.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 12:47 am
by msmoore66
Rate this. Great stuff.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 1:03 am
by JimmyPlopper
Gobert in the perfect spot

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 1:25 am
by edmunder_prc
Doranku wrote:If only the Cavs had anyone other than the worst scorer in the league starting at the 2 spot...



Hey now, Pistons start Hayes. He is actually much improved over last season, if you can believe it.

edit - sorry, hes our PG? Along with Cade, who is our PG too?

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 1:28 am
by panthermark
Nice work man...
Zach and DeRozen looking good!

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 1:37 am
by Lockdown504090
mitchell very underrated as a scorer.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 2:20 am
by Saints14
Nice work!

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 2:27 am
by Egg Nog
Fantastic work disproving your username.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 3:28 am
by shotsquatch
Sweet, where'd you get the data?

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 5:51 am
by JujitsuFlip
shotsquatch wrote:Sweet, where'd you get the data?
Looks like in the bottom right of the image it says basketball reference.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 4:20 pm
by BruttoNostra
Great work, OP!!!
As data analyst, I have to add my two cents:
There are 6 players who have no superior players in both categories:
Giannis, Jokic, Harrell, Allen, Holmes and Gobert.
For example, Young, Curry and Durant have Jokic being better than each one of them in both Points per 100 and TS%, but Jokic itself and 5 other guys have nobody better than them in both categories.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 7:48 pm
by WestGOAT
zimpy27 wrote:Really cool work.

I would be really interested to see FGA (or FGA+FTA*0.44) per 100 on the Y-axis rather than Points. I want to know who is shooting, their efficiency and who should be shooting more/less.


I liked the suggestion as this made me curious. So I had a quick look and this is how it looks:
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Safe to say in both graphs it's pretty clear that Jordan Clarkson is the chucker of the year so far. He has almost as many TSAper100 as Jokic.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 8:31 pm
by zimpy27
WestGOAT wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Really cool work.

I would be really interested to see FGA (or FGA+FTA*0.44) per 100 on the Y-axis rather than Points. I want to know who is shooting, their efficiency and who should be shooting more/less.


I liked the suggestion as this made me curious. So I had a quick look and this is how it looks:
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Safe to say in both graphs it's pretty clear that Jordan Clarkson is the chucker of the year so far. He has almost as many TSAper100 as Jokic.


Awesome work!

I think the distribution of shots taken by positions is fascinating in itself. I think the curve shapes speak to how predictable the roles of PG, SG,and C are on modern offenses. It also highlights how unpredictable SF is (and to a lesser extent PF), the disparity could explain why it's such an important position.

It's also interesting that you're getting some splitting in the distribution for ts%. That's kind of weird. All except PG, kind of suggests that assists are having an impact. I'd.hypothesise that if you looked at unassisted ts% that those distributions wouldn't split. Unassisted vs assisted would be interesting.

What program.do you use?

And yeah Clarkson chucks for sure.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 8:47 pm
by Duke4life831
Great work.

Ill also say that the 30 point per 100 seems to be a really solid cutoff from the better scorers in the NBA and everyone else. From 30 up is basically just all the names of who I think of as the best scorers of the game. Those are the guys you want as your 1st and 2nd scoring options. They're the real higher level bucket getters in the NBA.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 8:56 pm
by TheSuzerain
Please identify where Nikola Vucevic is.

Re: Visualizing the best and worst bucket-getters so far for this season

Posted: Wed Dec 8, 2021 9:15 pm
by Johnny Bball
TheSuzerain wrote:Please identify where Nikola Vucevic is.


Pretty sure you can map two data points.