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Liam_Gallagher wrote:Let the asymtomatic players play. Enough is enough.
It honestly boggles my mind how someone isn’t allowed to play who feels perfectly fine lol.
Triple M wrote:Liam_Gallagher wrote:Let the asymtomatic players play. Enough is enough.
It honestly boggles my mind how someone isn’t allowed to play who feels perfectly fine lol.
Asymptomatic players would spread the virus if they are allowed to play.
Triple M wrote:Liam_Gallagher wrote:Let the asymtomatic players play. Enough is enough.
It honestly boggles my mind how someone isn’t allowed to play who feels perfectly fine lol.
Asymptomatic players would spread the virus if they are allowed to play.
The EPL might be postponing games this weekend which might have the NA leagues follow.
FNQ wrote:azcatz11 wrote:OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:This is really unfortunate and crappy. I made a thread before the season about how the breakthrough cases were going to shut down the NBA again possibly. I hope it doesn’t come down to this.
How can the NBA continue with zero covid though? Will they change the policy to symptomatic? Or just shut down? The NFL has had 75 positives in the last 2 days (I’m guessing Omicron?).
This is gonna suck.
My opinion: stop testing players who have no symptoms / who aren't sick. If the players association wants a bubble again they will have to give up significant salary. If they're willing to do that, do it. Otherwise, we're going to be in this for years so have to learn to adapt
This ultimately could be the solution, however suggesting it at this stage is wildly irresponsible.
We have some data that suggests this variant is more contagious but in doing so, the virus has weakened itself to the point where its not as lethal of a threat. Now as callous as some people are, they'll suggest diving headfirst into that and if people die, they die. Fortunately society has progressed beyond this, and there are plenty of places compiling data for the new variant right now, and my company is at the ready (already - kinda excited) to dive into the data once our client has decided they have enough clear data to go off of.
What's concerning here is the spike of people who should be otherwise healthy (IE young athletes) getting positive tests. Now its great that its not as lethal, supposedly, right now. But the obvious question should be - if the virus was able to transition to something that ensured it's livelihood, and since the natural progression with viruses is to reproduce and gain strength, we have to be wary of dismissing it as less important, because if it can retain its transmission levels while increasing its strength in the next variant, we've effectively trained it to be as lethal a pandemic as possible.
So testing should continue to occur, and health/safety protocols should remain in place in both the NFL and NBA until we get a better handle on it. All that said, the more likely outcome is the virus becoming more inert, and the fact that its more contagious will give our immune systems more data to work with in defending against this strain and other similar strains. But at this stage leaning heavily into one way (stop testing!) or another (complete lockdown!) is wildly irresponsible
infinite11285 wrote:FNQ wrote:azcatz11 wrote:
My opinion: stop testing players who have no symptoms / who aren't sick. If the players association wants a bubble again they will have to give up significant salary. If they're willing to do that, do it. Otherwise, we're going to be in this for years so have to learn to adapt
This ultimately could be the solution, however suggesting it at this stage is wildly irresponsible.
We have some data that suggests this variant is more contagious but in doing so, the virus has weakened itself to the point where its not as lethal of a threat. Now as callous as some people are, they'll suggest diving headfirst into that and if people die, they die. Fortunately society has progressed beyond this, and there are plenty of places compiling data for the new variant right now, and my company is at the ready (already - kinda excited) to dive into the data once our client has decided they have enough clear data to go off of.
What's concerning here is the spike of people who should be otherwise healthy (IE young athletes) getting positive tests. Now its great that its not as lethal, supposedly, right now. But the obvious question should be - if the virus was able to transition to something that ensured it's livelihood, and since the natural progression with viruses is to reproduce and gain strength, we have to be wary of dismissing it as less important, because if it can retain its transmission levels while increasing its strength in the next variant, we've effectively trained it to be as lethal a pandemic as possible.
So testing should continue to occur, and health/safety protocols should remain in place in both the NFL and NBA until we get a better handle on it. All that said, the more likely outcome is the virus becoming more inert, and the fact that its more contagious will give our immune systems more data to work with in defending against this strain and other similar strains. But at this stage leaning heavily into one way (stop testing!) or another (complete lockdown!) is wildly irresponsible
I'm curious, is it possible to be infected by both the Delta and Omicron variants simultaneously? And if so, can the two variants merge to form an even worse, combined version of both variants?
BigDan245 wrote:Triple M wrote:Liam_Gallagher wrote:Let the asymtomatic players play. Enough is enough.
It honestly boggles my mind how someone isn’t allowed to play who feels perfectly fine lol.
Asymptomatic players would spread the virus if they are allowed to play.
The EPL might be postponing games this weekend which might have the NA leagues follow.
https://www.riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/modern-day-censorship/covid-19-twitter-will-now-ban-users-that-repeatedly-claim-vaccinated-people-can-spread-covid/
is twitter lying or is twitter incompetent? Biden also said the same thing.
bisme37 wrote:I just updated post #2 with some of the new cases that were announced today.
This thread has already gotten much deeper into virus debate than I was hoping it would. But people are behaving like adults for the most part and potential misinformation is getting quickly corrected by other users. So in the interest of giving the people what they want, I'm going to be flexible and let y'all do your thing haha.
But whenever possible, please stick to discussing COVID's impact on the NBA, not COVID in general. I just really don't want the thread to go off the rails and get locked. Thanks, good pals of mine.
Arteezy wrote:If you test 100 people you get 2 positives
If you test 100000 people you get 200 positives.
Maths aint hard
Arteezy wrote:If you test 100 people you get 2 positives
If you test 100000 people you get 200 positives.
Maths aint hard
Liam_Gallagher wrote::roll:Triple M wrote:Liam_Gallagher wrote:Let the asymtomatic players play. Enough is enough.
It honestly boggles my mind how someone isn’t allowed to play who feels perfectly fine lol.
Asymptomatic players would spread the virus if they are allowed to play.
Got any data to back that up with?
Edit: NFL will allow asymptomatic players to play. Told you.
Richard4444 wrote:Updated
Bucks: DiVincenzo, Giannis, Wesley Mathews, Bobby
Bulls: DeRozan, Ayo, Stanley Jonhson, Derrick Jones, Coby White, Javonte Green, Matt Thomas, Lavine, Alize Jonson, Troy Brown
Cavs: Okoro
Celtics: Jabari
Hornets: LaMello, Rozier, PJ Washington, Mason, Richards, McDaniels, Ish,
Kings: Bagley, TDavis, Fox, King, Len
Knicks: Topin, RJ, Grimes, Knox
Lakers: THT, Monk, Howard, WB, Bradley
Magic: Ignas
Memphis: Morant
Nets: Harden, Milsap, James Johnson, Bruce Brown, Bembry, Carten, Aldridge,
Nuggets: Bones, Rivers
Raptors: Precious
Sixers: Embiid, Harris, Thybulle, joe, Niang
Wizards: Kuzma
OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:infinite11285 wrote:FNQ wrote:
This ultimately could be the solution, however suggesting it at this stage is wildly irresponsible.
We have some data that suggests this variant is more contagious but in doing so, the virus has weakened itself to the point where its not as lethal of a threat. Now as callous as some people are, they'll suggest diving headfirst into that and if people die, they die. Fortunately society has progressed beyond this, and there are plenty of places compiling data for the new variant right now, and my company is at the ready (already - kinda excited) to dive into the data once our client has decided they have enough clear data to go off of.
What's concerning here is the spike of people who should be otherwise healthy (IE young athletes) getting positive tests. Now its great that its not as lethal, supposedly, right now. But the obvious question should be - if the virus was able to transition to something that ensured it's livelihood, and since the natural progression with viruses is to reproduce and gain strength, we have to be wary of dismissing it as less important, because if it can retain its transmission levels while increasing its strength in the next variant, we've effectively trained it to be as lethal a pandemic as possible.
So testing should continue to occur, and health/safety protocols should remain in place in both the NFL and NBA until we get a better handle on it. All that said, the more likely outcome is the virus becoming more inert, and the fact that its more contagious will give our immune systems more data to work with in defending against this strain and other similar strains. But at this stage leaning heavily into one way (stop testing!) or another (complete lockdown!) is wildly irresponsible
I'm curious, is it possible to be infected by both the Delta and Omicron variants simultaneously? And if so, can the two variants merge to form an even worse, combined version of both variants?
Moderna’s CEO made this suggestion yesterday or the day before. I am skeptical
