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Post#841 » by art_tatum » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:52 am

This is NCAA but involves John Stockton who had his season tickets revoked bc he refused to follow the masking mandate at Gonzaga.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/college/gonzaga/.amp/basketball/john-stockton-season-tickets-suspended


Apparently he's also been spreading misinformation on the vaccine etc etc.

Stockton and Malone's outside of the court history has not aged well.
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Post#842 » by Rockazoids » Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:52 pm

art_tatum wrote:This is NCAA but involves John Stockton who had his season tickets revoked bc he refused to follow the masking mandate at Gonzaga.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/college/gonzaga/.amp/basketball/john-stockton-season-tickets-suspended


Apparently he's also been spreading misinformation on the vaccine etc etc.

Stockton and Malone's outside of the court history has not aged well.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/gonzaga-suspends-legend-john-stocktons-basketball-season-tickets-over-defiance-of-mask-mandate/
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Post#843 » by Fade_awayJ » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:00 pm

Rockazoids wrote:
art_tatum wrote:This is NCAA but involves John Stockton who had his season tickets revoked bc he refused to follow the masking mandate at Gonzaga.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/college/gonzaga/.amp/basketball/john-stockton-season-tickets-suspended


Apparently he's also been spreading misinformation on the vaccine etc etc.

Stockton and Malone's outside of the court history has not aged well.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/gonzaga-suspends-legend-john-stocktons-basketball-season-tickets-over-defiance-of-mask-mandate/


Funny, in the NBA non vaxxed players actually get to play games
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Post#844 » by Bill Bradley » Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:17 pm

Nice to see Stockton has the courage to speak out against this absurdity. More would do the same if they had nothing to lose by being truthful.
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Post#845 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:22 pm

Bill Bradley wrote:Nice to see Stockton has the courage to speak out against this absurdity. More would do the same if they had nothing to lose by being truthful.


“I think it’s highly recorded now, there’s 150 I believe now, it’s over 100 professional athletes dead – professional athletes – the prime of their life, dropping dead that are vaccinated, right on the pitch, right on the field, right on the court,” Stockton said in the interview.


This is bat **** crazy and not bound in any sort of reality. He is out here spreading massive amounts of misinformation and lies. Hopefully he gets banned from more places for his QAnon BS. You have the right to disagree and speak out. You do not have the right to fabricate and smear with untruths and lies.
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Post#846 » by Bill Bradley » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:06 pm

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Bill Bradley wrote:Nice to see Stockton has the courage to speak out against this absurdity. More would do the same if they had nothing to lose by being truthful.


“I think it’s highly recorded now, there’s 150 I believe now, it’s over 100 professional athletes dead – professional athletes – the prime of their life, dropping dead that are vaccinated, right on the pitch, right on the field, right on the court,” Stockton said in the interview.


This is bat **** crazy and not bound in any sort of reality. He is out here spreading massive amounts of misinformation and lies. Hopefully he gets banned from more places for his QAnon BS. You have the right to disagree and speak out. You do not have the right to fabricate and smear with untruths and lies.


Actually what he’s saying seems to be true. Sudden heart issues and players collapsing due to heart problems have gone way up. The numbers are out there. I read some report the other day but don’t remember where. You won’t find it in the mainstream news though, that’s for sure. Doesn’t mean it’s false. Vaccine side effects are a big problem that’s underreported in more ways than one. Here’s what the CDC says about myocarditis.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html?fbclid=IwAR1P17436RcKiglrYKhW2AR7ezQe6gMe72tHs1OV-GduQHNxRbiPvPz9txc

Will drop one or two more links:

https://www.westernjournal.com/olympic-athlete-reveals-chilling-side-effect-covid-booster-shot/

https://yournews.com/2022/01/08/2278667/triple-vaccinated-swiss-olympic-athlete-fabienne-schlumpf-diagnosed-with-myocarditis/

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1997221/amp
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Post#847 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:45 pm

Bill Bradley wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Bill Bradley wrote:Nice to see Stockton has the courage to speak out against this absurdity. More would do the same if they had nothing to lose by being truthful.


“I think it’s highly recorded now, there’s 150 I believe now, it’s over 100 professional athletes dead – professional athletes – the prime of their life, dropping dead that are vaccinated, right on the pitch, right on the field, right on the court,” Stockton said in the interview.


This is bat **** crazy and not bound in any sort of reality. He is out here spreading massive amounts of misinformation and lies. Hopefully he gets banned from more places for his QAnon BS. You have the right to disagree and speak out. You do not have the right to fabricate and smear with untruths and lies.


Actually what he’s saying seems to be true. Sudden heart issues and players collapsing due to heart problems have gone way up. The numbers are out there. I read some report the other day but don’t remember where. You won’t find it in the mainstream news though, that’s for sure. Doesn’t mean it’s false. Vaccine side effects are a big problem that’s underreported in more ways than one. Here’s what the CDC says about myocarditis.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html?fbclid=IwAR1P17436RcKiglrYKhW2AR7ezQe6gMe72tHs1OV-GduQHNxRbiPvPz9txc

Will drop one or two more links:

https://www.westernjournal.com/olympic-athlete-reveals-chilling-side-effect-covid-booster-shot/

https://yournews.com/2022/01/08/2278667/triple-vaccinated-swiss-olympic-athlete-fabienne-schlumpf-diagnosed-with-myocarditis/

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1997221/amp



This has already been debunked so no it’s not legitimate. Myocarditis happens infinitely more in Covid patients than it’s ever happened from the vaccine. Your moron Joe Rogan just got his ass kicked on this subject a few weeks ago. Is it possible in from The vaccine? Yes thus the CDC warning to monitor. Is it prevalent? No it’s not. But it is prevalent in those that actually get Covid.

Now…name a 150 professional athlete that suffered from myocarditis caused by the vaccine. Much less died as Stockton claims? With hundreds dead this should be easy for you,

But you can’t because it’s bogus.

Also stop using bogus/fake news sites like the Western Journal and Arab news as legitimate sources. They aren’t. They are fake news at its finest.
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Post#848 » by Pointgod » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:47 pm

Bill Bradley wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Bill Bradley wrote:Nice to see Stockton has the courage to speak out against this absurdity. More would do the same if they had nothing to lose by being truthful.


“I think it’s highly recorded now, there’s 150 I believe now, it’s over 100 professional athletes dead – professional athletes – the prime of their life, dropping dead that are vaccinated, right on the pitch, right on the field, right on the court,” Stockton said in the interview.


This is bat **** crazy and not bound in any sort of reality. He is out here spreading massive amounts of misinformation and lies. Hopefully he gets banned from more places for his QAnon BS. You have the right to disagree and speak out. You do not have the right to fabricate and smear with untruths and lies.


Actually what he’s saying seems to be true. Sudden heart issues and players collapsing due to heart problems have gone way up. The numbers are out there. I read some report the other day but don’t remember where. You won’t find it in the mainstream news though, that’s for sure. Doesn’t mean it’s false. Vaccine side effects are a big problem that’s underreported in more ways than one. Here’s what the CDC says about myocarditis.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html?fbclid=IwAR1P17436RcKiglrYKhW2AR7ezQe6gMe72tHs1OV-GduQHNxRbiPvPz9txc

Will drop one or two more links:

https://www.westernjournal.com/olympic-athlete-reveals-chilling-side-effect-covid-booster-shot/

https://yournews.com/2022/01/08/2278667/triple-vaccinated-swiss-olympic-athlete-fabienne-schlumpf-diagnosed-with-myocarditis/

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1997221/amp


The risk of myocarditis is higher from a COVID infection than from vaccines. Overall it’s something that’s low and treatable. John Stockton saying hundreds of athletes are dropping dead is straight up lies and bull.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0

All the CDC link says is there is a risk, all your other links are absolute garbage and aren’t from anything resembling a credible site.
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Post#849 » by Dave DaButcher » Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:58 am

Bill Bradley wrote:Nice to see Stockton has the courage to speak out against this absurdity. More would do the same if they had nothing to lose by being truthful.


Agreed, Stockton is simply saying what others know to be true, but are too afraid to express. To wit:

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Post#850 » by WestGOAT » Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:34 am

How long will these mandates last, or at least be imposed on atheletes in peak condition? U.K and Denmark are starting to lift their restrictions for the general population. Rest of Europe to follow soon.

It's frankly getting ridiculous that someone like Kyrie is still banned from playing home games. It really is starting to feel more like they want to make an example out of him than follow an actual evidence-based health policy decision.
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Post#851 » by xdrta+ » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:56 pm

WestGOAT wrote:How long will these mandates last, or at least be imposed on atheletes in peak condition? U.K and Denmark are starting to lift their restrictions for the general population. Rest of Europe to follow soon.

It's frankly getting ridiculous that someone like Kyrie is still banned from playing home games. It really is starting to feel more like they want to make an example out of him than follow an actual evidence-based health policy decision.


No one is making an example of Kyrie. This is a NYC rule, not an NBA or Nets rule. NYC is following an actual evidence-based health policy in an attempt to protect their residents.
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Post#852 » by Bottomsouth » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:52 am

xdrta+ wrote:
WestGOAT wrote:How long will these mandates last, or at least be imposed on atheletes in peak condition? U.K and Denmark are starting to lift their restrictions for the general population. Rest of Europe to follow soon.

It's frankly getting ridiculous that someone like Kyrie is still banned from playing home games. It really is starting to feel more like they want to make an example out of him than follow an actual evidence-based health policy decision.


No one is making an example of Kyrie. This is a NYC rule, not an NBA or Nets rule. NYC is following an actual evidence-based health policy in an attempt to protect their residents.


Like putting covid patients in nursing homes.
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Post#853 » by righterwriter » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:19 am

xdrta+ wrote:
WestGOAT wrote:How long will these mandates last, or at least be imposed on atheletes in peak condition? U.K and Denmark are starting to lift their restrictions for the general population. Rest of Europe to follow soon.

It's frankly getting ridiculous that someone like Kyrie is still banned from playing home games. It really is starting to feel more like they want to make an example out of him than follow an actual evidence-based health policy decision.


No one is making an example of Kyrie. This is a NYC rule, not an NBA or Nets rule. NYC is following an actual evidence-based health policy in an attempt to protect their residents.


It's time for the leaders of NYC, and civic leaders like them, to update their evidence.

There are only 47 people in the ICU in NYC now WITH Covid, not even necessarily because of it. In fact, 50% of people who are shown to be hospitalized with Covid are there for another ailment and its just discovered that they have it after the fact.
https://gothamist.com/news/new-preliminary-state-data-shows-half-people-nyc-hospitals-covid-19-were-admitted-other-reasons


People really need to start using statistics as evidence to make their deductions now for measures and vaccine requirements for the general public, as its pretty clear that there should be major changes in the restrictions now.

This is coming from someone who got vaccinated and followed all the social distancing rules. It's time to move on, though. In fact, its essential to do it.
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Post#854 » by garrick » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:32 pm

Bill Bradley wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Bill Bradley wrote:Nice to see Stockton has the courage to speak out against this absurdity. More would do the same if they had nothing to lose by being truthful.


“I think it’s highly recorded now, there’s 150 I believe now, it’s over 100 professional athletes dead – professional athletes – the prime of their life, dropping dead that are vaccinated, right on the pitch, right on the field, right on the court,” Stockton said in the interview.


This is bat **** crazy and not bound in any sort of reality. He is out here spreading massive amounts of misinformation and lies. Hopefully he gets banned from more places for his QAnon BS. You have the right to disagree and speak out. You do not have the right to fabricate and smear with untruths and lies.


Actually what he’s saying seems to be true. Sudden heart issues and players collapsing due to heart problems have gone way up. The numbers are out there. I read some report the other day but don’t remember where. You won’t find it in the mainstream news though, that’s for sure. Doesn’t mean it’s false. Vaccine side effects are a big problem that’s underreported in more ways than one. Here’s what the CDC says about myocarditis.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html?fbclid=IwAR1P17436RcKiglrYKhW2AR7ezQe6gMe72tHs1OV-GduQHNxRbiPvPz9txc

Will drop one or two more links:

https://www.westernjournal.com/olympic-athlete-reveals-chilling-side-effect-covid-booster-shot/

https://yournews.com/2022/01/08/2278667/triple-vaccinated-swiss-olympic-athlete-fabienne-schlumpf-diagnosed-with-myocarditis/

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1997221/amp


If vaccines are so dangerous why is it that with almost 300 players vaccinated not one has suffered from adverse reactions yet we do have a few instances of players like Tatum and Damion Lee suffering from long covid by catching covid naturally?
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Post#855 » by toooskies » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:41 pm

righterwriter wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
WestGOAT wrote:How long will these mandates last, or at least be imposed on atheletes in peak condition? U.K and Denmark are starting to lift their restrictions for the general population. Rest of Europe to follow soon.

It's frankly getting ridiculous that someone like Kyrie is still banned from playing home games. It really is starting to feel more like they want to make an example out of him than follow an actual evidence-based health policy decision.


No one is making an example of Kyrie. This is a NYC rule, not an NBA or Nets rule. NYC is following an actual evidence-based health policy in an attempt to protect their residents.


It's time for the leaders of NYC, and civic leaders like them, to update their evidence.

There are only 47 people in the ICU in NYC now WITH Covid, not even necessarily because of it. In fact, 50% of people who are shown to be hospitalized with Covid are there for another ailment and its just discovered that they have it after the fact.
https://gothamist.com/news/new-preliminary-state-data-shows-half-people-nyc-hospitals-covid-19-were-admitted-other-reasons


People really need to start using statistics as evidence to make their deductions now for measures and vaccine requirements for the general public, as its pretty clear that there should be major changes in the restrictions now.

This is coming from someone who got vaccinated and followed all the social distancing rules. It's time to move on, though. In fact, its essential to do it.

COVID not being a problem at this moment in NYC is no guarantee that it won't be a problem next month, in three months, or in three years.
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Post#856 » by righterwriter » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:22 pm

toooskies wrote:
righterwriter wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
No one is making an example of Kyrie. This is a NYC rule, not an NBA or Nets rule. NYC is following an actual evidence-based health policy in an attempt to protect their residents.


It's time for the leaders of NYC, and civic leaders like them, to update their evidence.

There are only 47 people in the ICU in NYC now WITH Covid, not even necessarily because of it. In fact, 50% of people who are shown to be hospitalized with Covid are there for another ailment and its just discovered that they have it after the fact.
https://gothamist.com/news/new-preliminary-state-data-shows-half-people-nyc-hospitals-covid-19-were-admitted-other-reasons


People really need to start using statistics as evidence to make their deductions now for measures and vaccine requirements for the general public, as its pretty clear that there should be major changes in the restrictions now.

This is coming from someone who got vaccinated and followed all the social distancing rules. It's time to move on, though. In fact, its essential to do it.

COVID not being a problem at this moment in NYC is no guarantee that it won't be a problem next month, in three months, or in three years.


If you follow the science, it has shown two things that would indicate that there aren't worse outcomes coming forward with COVID:

1) This study showed that people who are reinfected have an almost 0% chance of heavy COVID or death. And that was based on the far more dangerous Delta strain. https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMc2108120

Considering that Omicron is projected to infect 3 billion people in the world by the end of March (link below), that means the majority of the population will have been infected and safe from heavy COVID or death.
https://www.npr.org/2021/12/22/1066649196/omicron-will-cause-more-infections-but-lower-hospital-rates-analysis-shows?t=1643568576366

2) This article shared quotes from a leading German virologist who said Omicron settling in the throat gives it an evolutionary advantage and there is no way for it to go back to being the more deadly version of the virus.

https://www.interview-welt.de/2022/01/13/virologe-keine-vierte-impfung-omikron-wird-wie-grippe/ (article with English version)
https://dup-magazin.de/corona-news-mediathek-chefvisite/ (original interview in German)


Of course no one knows what will happen in the future, but a lot of leading scientists are saying Covid will soon become a seasonal bug that does not threaten society and a lot of countries-- the UK, Ireland, Denmark-- are betting on it by dropping restrictions.
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Post#857 » by bisme37 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:35 pm

Erm... you guys are doing it again. I'm trying to be super cool about this thread and I've given no strikes this month to anyone for derailing. But we have to stay on topic. There are lots of other places to discuss the virus, the vaccines, and whatever your take on what "the science" is and how you feel about it. This thread is not about that. It's about the NBA and their protocol and the impacted players and teams (which, there aren't very many of them lately).

Please stay on topic and don't make me take a harder line here. I know people want to argue about this stuff but the only way this thread has survived so long is by limiting that kind of debate. This is an NBA forum and we talk about the NBA. People who ignore the OP and continue derailing are subject to discipline. Thanks.
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Post#858 » by toooskies » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:39 pm

righterwriter wrote:
toooskies wrote:
righterwriter wrote:
It's time for the leaders of NYC, and civic leaders like them, to update their evidence.

There are only 47 people in the ICU in NYC now WITH Covid, not even necessarily because of it. In fact, 50% of people who are shown to be hospitalized with Covid are there for another ailment and its just discovered that they have it after the fact.
https://gothamist.com/news/new-preliminary-state-data-shows-half-people-nyc-hospitals-covid-19-were-admitted-other-reasons


People really need to start using statistics as evidence to make their deductions now for measures and vaccine requirements for the general public, as its pretty clear that there should be major changes in the restrictions now.

This is coming from someone who got vaccinated and followed all the social distancing rules. It's time to move on, though. In fact, its essential to do it.

COVID not being a problem at this moment in NYC is no guarantee that it won't be a problem next month, in three months, or in three years.


If you follow the science, it has shown two things that would indicate that there aren't worse outcomes coming forward with COVID:

1) This study showed that people who are reinfected have an almost 0% chance of heavy COVID or death. And that was based on the far more dangerous Delta strain. https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMc2108120

Considering that Omicron is projected to infect 3 billion people in the world by the end of March (link below), that means the majority of the population will have been infected and safe from heavy COVID or death.
https://www.npr.org/2021/12/22/1066649196/omicron-will-cause-more-infections-but-lower-hospital-rates-analysis-shows?t=1643568576366

2) This article shared quotes from a leading German virologist who said Omicron settling in the throat gives it an evolutionary advantage and there is no way for it to go back to being the more deadly version of the virus.

https://www.interview-welt.de/2022/01/13/virologe-keine-vierte-impfung-omikron-wird-wie-grippe/ (article with English version)
https://dup-magazin.de/corona-news-mediathek-chefvisite/ (original interview in German)


Of course no one knows what will happen in the future, but a lot of leading scientists are saying Covid will soon become a seasonal bug that does not threaten society and a lot of countries-- the UK, Ireland, Denmark-- are betting on it by dropping restrictions.

Countries are removing restrictions because they are forced to politically. Very little of that political pressure exists in NYC.

Edit: removed anything not related to the NYC policy.
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Post#859 » by xdrta+ » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:42 pm

A month ago the NBA had over 100 players in health and safety protocols, today there are 7. Here is a policy working exactly as designed and yet there are people who say, time to get rid of it, or change it. When something is working it's not the time to change it. Especially after a grand total of one month of success.
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Post#860 » by Liam_Gallagher » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:43 pm

Canadian truckers are doing what doctors and nurses were too afraid to do.

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