View of Giannis if Kyrie and Harden didnt get injured last year

[ReddoverKobe]

Considering the Nets were down 2 of their 3 stars including one of them being a realgm favorite, its amusing seeing some stars (Giannis) get propped up when anyone who saw that series could only come to one conclusion - the Nets were clearly the better team and it took injuries (including a Giannis undercut of Kyrie) and KD's foot to stave off what was a beat down the first two games which were done so without Harden.

But when the shoe is on the other foot (and its not like Giannis was down BOTH middleton and jrue), the excuses and 'context' comes out.

In a lot of the PC board comparisons, we always see players get excused for failures out of their control. But that only applies to realgm favorites, and the whipping boys are given no such benefit of the doubt even when its layed bare for everyone to see.

Bucks were cruising to a win when Kyrie got injured. I do like how that injury becomes earlier and earlier in the series.

Not at all. They got up double digits in game 4 and Brooklyn were the ones settling in. They were only down 4, second quarter, when Kyrie got hurt. Which is typically how it goes when the better team (that won the first 2) is about to take a game 4 road game and.close it out in 5 or 6.

Bucks spotted the nets two then slapped them silly. God that felt good to watch. Hey, how did the nets do this year?

[kuclas]

There is 80-90% pure talent that determines champions. But also 10-20% luck involved when it comes to championships.

It’s just not just Giannis Tons of what ifs with many title teams.

Besides sure fire title teams (2012 Miami heat) 2017/2018 golden state title teams. There are a few lucky situations where things went the title team way.

Would curry have even a single title without KD? What if both love and Irving hasn’t gotten injured Vs golden state in 2015. I think Lebron and healthy cavs team take out curry.

If ray Allen didn’t hit the game tying 3 point shot. Would Lebron tenure in Miami be viewed differently with just one title?

Or Leonard shot bouncing in. Does Toronto even survive in overtime? To advance. Maybe maybe not.

But Giannis won. And that changed perception on him.

[hardenASG13]

Tried to tell you all. This thread is aging exactly as I thought it would, because it was based on reality.

[JayMKE]

doesn't matter since Giannis then wins the next 2 rings because of injuries

dumb ass concept

[Medbrat]

Giannis is a star of Kg level, he needs a couple of stars like Ray and Pierce to carry the load for him.

[hardenASG13]

doesn't matter since Giannis then wins the next 2 rings because of injuries

dumb ass concept

The talk we're seeing now about Milwaukee is exactly what would've happened had Brooklyn been healthy that season. Bucks/Suns in 2021 have been thoroughly proven fraudulent, and the same warts being able to close and beat good teams for Milwaukee have always existed.

[srhcan]

First, this isnt a thread to hate on Giannis, the Bucks title, or anything like that. They won the championship, and there is no taking that away. Giannis is really good.

However, as a neutral fan, let's call it like it is. I have to wonder how Giannis would be viewed this year had the Nets not suffered injuries and closed out the Bucks in 5 or 6 as it appeared they were on track to do (If you deny this, youre lying to yourself, the nets played games 3-7 with Jeff Green as their 2nd best player).

Lets not forget Giannis had won the previous two MVPs yet gotten bounced embarrasingly in the second round in both those years. It looked like it was about to be a third straight year of that before Kyrie went down. They of course went on to beat two teams in Atlanta and Phoenix who as a neutral observer, were simply not close to traditional championship caliber teams. Giannis and the bucks wouldve been blasted all off season again, and the roster quite possibly wouldve been shaken up.

How would Giannis be looked at this year had they gone down in the second round again last year, as they were on track to do? I think hed be talked about as a fringe top 5 player, or maybe top 10. People wouldve completely moved on from him instead of talking about him as a definate top 3 guy and possible all time great. What a difference a turned ankle can make.

Giannis is a very lucky guy and so is Bucks for winning that year's title. Everyone knew Nets were winning that year's title even with Harden injured. But after Kyrie get injured it become obvious Nets will lose.

[Yank3525]

Giannis would be seen as a modern day David Robinson without the 2021 title.

[JayMKE]

doesn't matter since Giannis then wins the next 2 rings because of injuries

dumb ass concept

The talk we're seeing now about Milwaukee is exactly what would've happened had Brooklyn been healthy that season. Bucks/Suns in 2021 have been thoroughly proven fraudulent, and the same warts being able to close and beat good teams for Milwaukee have always existed.

Pretty sure it was Brooklyn who was definitively proven fraudulent, fat Harden and the rest of them played how many minutes together? Get over it bro, move on.

[hardenASG13]

doesn't matter since Giannis then wins the next 2 rings because of injuries

dumb ass concept

The talk we're seeing now about Milwaukee is exactly what would've happened had Brooklyn been healthy that season. Bucks/Suns in 2021 have been thoroughly proven fraudulent, and the same warts being able to close and beat good teams for Milwaukee have always existed.

Pretty sure it was Brooklyn who was definitively proven fraudulent, fat Harden and the rest of them played how many minutes together? Get over it bro, move on.

Brooklyn was a failure. This was about Milwaukee, and was spot on.

[JayMKE]

The talk we're seeing now about Milwaukee is exactly what would've happened had Brooklyn been healthy that season. Bucks/Suns in 2021 have been thoroughly proven fraudulent, and the same warts being able to close and beat good teams for Milwaukee have always existed.

Pretty sure it was Brooklyn who was definitively proven fraudulent, fat Harden and the rest of them played how many minutes together? Get over it bro, move on.

Brooklyn was a failure. This was about Milwaukee, and was spot on.

I look in the rafters and see a championship banner, you’re analysis is jilted & butthurt on another level. Are you still a Nets or Harden fan?