Ben Simmons/Sixers/Is he getting fined? (updated)

mademan · Post #1 » by **mademan** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:34 pm

https://theathletic.com/3060724/2022/01/10/update-on-ben-simmons-trade-talks-frustrated-hawks-star-john-collins-a-possible-match-nba-news-and-notes/

"Simmons has yet to play this season after informing his 76ers organization, coaches and teammates that he is not mentally ready to play and needs time to work on himself. The 76ers have not been fining Simmons, as he fulfills team obligations such as training sessions and team meetings as well as continuing to meet with mental health specialists, sources said. And yet, the 76ers don’t appear any closer to a trade than they were in the offseason and prior to training camp."

So theyre putting no pressure on Simmons to return and dont seem close to a trade, lmao.

Update 2/1:

SIMMONS HAS LOST over $19 million in fines since the season began (each missed game costs him $360,000). He hasn't cleared a paycheck since the $8.25 million (25% of his $33 million salary) that was due to him Oct. 1. Every two weeks the team sends a notice with an explanation of all the fines he has accumulated for failing to render services, instead of a $1.375 million paycheck. By the end of the season, if he does not play for the Sixers or any other team, Simmons could lose another $12 million.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/33188431/the-specter-saga-haunts-ben-simmons-philadelphia-76ers

Post #2 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:52 pm

Haha good on Simmons then. He seems to be playing this perfectly.

Asianiac_24 · Post #3 » by **Asianiac_24** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:54 pm

Ben Simmons has made mental health a complete joke. Fine him until he plays, or the next CBA is going to install a rule for people like him

Post #4 » by **Harry Garris** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:57 pm

So the Sixers may just be sitting on their hands until the offseason. I think this is fine if the trade market for Ben Simmons isn't robust enough to meaningfully improve your title chances this year. Too many teams have ruined their future by making win now trades that didn't even end up making the team better in the short term.

Castle Black · Post #5 » by **Castle Black** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:59 pm

Ahh yes, The Mental Health Get Out of Jail Free Card.

RiRuHoops · Post #6 » by **RiRuHoops** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:05 pm

Tor_Raps · Post #7 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:05 pm

While what Simmons is doing doesn't see great from the outside looking in, Morey seems just as delusional with his asking price. If the Sixers don't trade Ben by the trade deadline, I will shift my anger towards him and the Sixers. Right now I think most will side against Simmons for how he's gone about things.

Ballerhogger · Post #8 » by **Ballerhogger** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:05 pm

I mean they should go for collions trade if it’s there … but I think he’s sixer next season as well

Myth · Post #9 » by **Myth** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:11 pm

But John Collins isn't top 25

jokeboy86 · Post #10 » by **jokeboy86** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:38 pm

76ers are up s***'s creek. They've stopped fining Simmons and probably can only trade him to a few places because best believe Paul has been telling certain teams/markets to trade for Ben at their own risk because he won't be happy there. The endgame for Paul is still to eventually get Simmons to the Lakers to team up with AD to form the new post-Lebron core.

tribulations · Post #11 » by **tribulations** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:44 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:While what Simmons is doing doesn't see great from the outside looking in, Morey seems just as delusional with his asking price. If the Sixers don't trade Ben by the trade deadline, I will shift my anger towards him and the Sixers. Right now I think most will side against Simmons for how he's gone about things.

Feel bad for Philly fans but honestly Simmons and Morey sound like they deserve each other

gottamakeit · Post #12 » by **gottamakeit** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:49 pm

tribulations wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:While what Simmons is doing doesn't see great from the outside looking in, Morey seems just as delusional with his asking price. If the Sixers don't trade Ben by the trade deadline, I will shift my anger towards him and the Sixers. Right now I think most will side against Simmons for how he's gone about things.

Feel bad for Philly fans but honestly Simmons and Morey sound like they deserve each other

Ditto and for that reason...
Philly trades Morey and Simmons to the Mavs for Nico and Porzingis

mademan · Post #13 » by **mademan** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:50 pm

Harry Garris wrote:So the Sixers may just be sitting on their hands until the offseason. I think this is fine if the trade market for Ben Simmons isn't robust enough to meaningfully improve your title chances this year. Too many teams have ruined their future by making win now trades that didn't even end up making the team better in the short term.

ya, but the counter argument is "how good does the player you get have to be to justify punting this season?". I dont see a dominant team out there; are the Sixers with another good 2-3 rotation players not in the mix for a title? I mean theyre up against mostly teams with a player as dominant(Giannis)/less dominant than Embiid and who's rosters are just decent, with the exception of the Nets who have a litany of issues to sort out themselves.

Like if you could get Reddish/Huerter/Collins and a 1st for Simmons, which i think is very doable, do you not have a chance for a title? You also have Harris/your own 1sts and that Hawks 1st to get someone back. That's a realistic trade that could be done tomorrow, imo, but is Philly only locked in on star power?

If you get past the trade deadline with 30 mill of dead cap on your roster, you have to rationalize that the player you end up getting for Simmons is good enough to justify a wasted season, and i just dont see that as likely.

Tanks1 · Post #14 » by **Tanks1** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:51 pm

jokeboy86 wrote:76ers are up s***'s creek. They've stopped fining Simmons and probably can only trade him to a few places because best believe Paul has been telling certain teams/markets to trade for Ben at their own risk because he won't be happy there. The endgame for Paul is still to eventually get Simmons to the Lakers to team up with AD to form the new post-Lebron core.

no, we're not....we can wait for the best offer. Sixers fans are not pressuring Morey. As a matter of fact, Simmons is barely mentioned in the Philly media anymore. Maxey has been a joy to watch. Team is not championship bound right now, but they are entertaining....

10, 9, 8, 76ers!!!

PlatinumState · Post #15 » by **PlatinumState** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:53 pm

I knew it. Because if they werent paying him best believe he would be spewing all kinds of crap through Rich Paul

Post #16 » by **bisme37** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:03 pm

The Philadelphia 76ers have "little-to-no hope" of persuading Ben Simmons to rejoin the team if they don't trade him by the deadline.

Simmons has remained out all season long for personal reasons while focusing on his mental health. Simmons is holding to his pledge of never playing for the 76ers again.

MARC STEIN/SUBSTACK

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265400/76ers-Have-No-Little-To-Hope-Of-Persuading-Ben-Simmons-To-Play

jokeboy86 · Post #17 » by **jokeboy86** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:09 pm

Tanks1 wrote:
jokeboy86 wrote:76ers are up s***'s creek. They've stopped fining Simmons and probably can only trade him to a few places because best believe Paul has been telling certain teams/markets to trade for Ben at their own risk because he won't be happy there. The endgame for Paul is still to eventually get Simmons to the Lakers to team up with AD to form the new post-Lebron core.

no, we're not....we can wait for the best offer. Sixers fans are not pressuring Morey. As a matter of fact, Simmons is barely mentioned in the Philly media anymore. Maxey has been a joy to watch. Team is not championship bound right now, but they are entertaining....

10, 9, 8, 76ers!!!

Sixers fans may not be pressuring Morey but you best believe management didn't give him and Rivers all that money to not be a contender with Embiid in his prime(and healthy btw). If there was no pressure then they would've hired an up and coming assistant as coach and a low profile hire as GM. Morey and Rivers got next year to make the Finals imo or they're done.

hoosierdaddy34 · Post #18 » by **hoosierdaddy34** » Tue Feb 1, 2022 6:04 pm

According to Dan Feldman of NBC Sports, The Sixers have fined Simmons over 19 million to this point.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/02/01/report-76ers-have-fined-ben-simmons-more-than-19m-and-counting/

macNcheese3 · Post #19 » by **macNcheese3** » Tue Feb 1, 2022 6:07 pm

I don't see Simmons being moved at the deadline. This situation is dire for Philly and I'm not sure they get the best offer at the deadline. They have yet to make a move, and the so called "talks" with Sacramento broke down. The offseason is where they will have the best chance of getting the offer they like, hopefully.

It sucks not seeing Simmons play (hopefully he's working on his shot).

Tor_Raps · Post #20 » by **Tor_Raps** » Tue Feb 1, 2022 6:10 pm

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:According to Dan Feldman of NBC Sports, The Sixers have fined Simmons over 19 million to this point.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/02/01/report-76ers-have-fined-ben-simmons-more-than-19m-and-counting/

Simmons is an idiot if true. Go there and fake a back injury or something so he could still get paid. He should follow Kawhis lead even if Kawhi did some have knee issues but it could never really be proven.