Lowest arguable ranking for Kobe?

[Collymore]

Expanding the concept discussed in the threads on Dirk, Jordan and James, what is the lowest Kobe Bryant can be reasonably ranked all time? This is not where you rank him, rather how many players (and specifically who) have a case to be made that is reasonable?

[70sFan]

i don't think you can rank him outside top 20, unless you don't care about longevity at all.

[SlovenianDragon]

This one is interesting because Kobe wasnt the best shooter and wasnt the best clutch player... And his rings can be argued that Shaq and Pau carried him. When Shaq left Kobe didnt even make the playoffs than when they got Pau they took off again. Will be interesting to see where people rank him.

[Doranku]

This one is interesting because Kobe wasnt the best shooter and wasnt the best clutch player... And his rings can be argued that Shaq and Pau carried him. When Shaq left Kobe didnt even make the playoffs til they got Pau. Will be interesting to see where people rank him.

Just don't talk if you don't know.

[xinxin]

This one is interesting because Kobe wasnt the best shooter and wasnt the best clutch player... And his rings can be argued that Shaq and Pau carried him. When Shaq left Kobe didnt even make the playoffs til they got Pau. Will be interesting to see where people rank him.

*quoting before the edit*

Pau only joined the lakers in 2008. Kobe led the lakers with smush parker and kwame brown to the playoffs in 2006 and 2007.... took your suns 7 games to defeat them in 2006


but to answer the poll: 12th, with the NBA players past and present.

[SlovenianDragon]

This one is interesting because Kobe wasnt the best shooter and wasnt the best clutch player... And his rings can be argued that Shaq and Pau carried him. When Shaq left Kobe didnt even make the playoffs til they got Pau. Will be interesting to see where people rank him.

*quoting before the edit*

Pau only joined the lakers in 2008. Kobe led the lakers with smush parker and kwame brown to the playoffs in 2006 and 2007.... took your suns 7 games to defeat them in 2006

I was just going off the top of my head so they missed the playoffs once when shaq left and were first round exits until pau... W.e same thing... The argument can still be made that Shaq and Pau carried.

[SlovenianDragon]

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[Doranku]

...anyway, moving past the blatant trolling that is somehow permitted when it comes to Kobe, the answer to the OP would be around 15th. I'd say the reasonable spectrum for Kobe to be ranked would be 7th-15th. Anything higher or lower seems egregious.

[SlovenianDragon]

...anyway, moving past the blatant trolling that is somehow permitted when it comes to Kobe, the answer to the OP would be around 15th. I'd say the reasonable spectrum for Kobe to be ranked would be 7th-15th. Anything higher or lower seems egregious.

Just because u dont like something doesn't equal trolling. You know this is a discussion when it comes to Kobe.

[Doranku]

...anyway, moving past the blatant trolling that is somehow permitted when it comes to Kobe, the answer to the OP would be around 15th. I'd say the reasonable spectrum for Kobe to be ranked would be 7th-15th. Anything higher or lower seems egregious.

Just because u dont like something doesn't equal trolling. You know this is a discussion when it comes to Kobe.

There is no discussion or argument that "Pau carried Kobe". It's like saying Pippen carried Jordan, or Manu carried Duncan, or Kyrie carried Bron. It's lazy trolling to get a rise out of people because you're bored. Just because YOU don't like someone doesn't mean you have to make ridiculous claims to downplay their accomplishments.

[SlovenianDragon]

...anyway, moving past the blatant trolling that is somehow permitted when it comes to Kobe, the answer to the OP would be around 15th. I'd say the reasonable spectrum for Kobe to be ranked would be 7th-15th. Anything higher or lower seems egregious.

Just because u dont like something doesn't equal trolling. You know this is a discussion when it comes to Kobe.

There is no discussion or argument that "Pau carried Kobe". It's like saying Pippen carried Jordan, or Manu carried Duncan, or Kyrie carried Bron. It's lazy trolling to get a rise out of people because you're bored. Just because YOU don't like someone doesn't mean you have to make ridiculous claims to downplay their accomplishments.

Kobe couldnt have won without Pau.

This is an interesting thread where you have to rank them as lowest as possible... But you are letting ur feelings get in the way.

[bamheat]

This one is interesting because Kobe wasnt the best shooter and wasnt the best clutch player... And his rings can be argued that Shaq and Pau carried him. When Shaq left Kobe didnt even make the playoffs than when they got Pau they took off again. Will be interesting to see where people rank him.

He really was the luckiest basketball player ever. Never had any incredible playoff moments.

I think people tend to forget how much he failed in playoffs only to be saved by his teammates.

[FreeThrowLine]

Hmm this is a really tough one, but I'd say somewhere around 15th is the lowest, but I personally have him around 11th or 12th

[Tim Kempton]

MJ, LeBron, KAJ, Wilt, Russell, Duncan, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Olajuwon, Big O, West, Dr. J, Baylor, Curry, Mikan, Pettit, and Moses are the only ones who have a legitimate argument over Kobe depending on how you rank older players and I wouldn't necessarily put Kobe at the bottom of that list.

17-19ish is the lowest you can place him.

[Doranku]

Just because u dont like something doesn't equal trolling. You know this is a discussion when it comes to Kobe.

There is no discussion or argument that "Pau carried Kobe". It's like saying Pippen carried Jordan, or Manu carried Duncan, or Kyrie carried Bron. It's lazy trolling to get a rise out of people because you're bored. Just because YOU don't like someone doesn't mean you have to make ridiculous claims to downplay their accomplishments.

Kobe couldnt have won without Pau.

This is an interesting thread where you have to rank them as lowest as possible... But you are letting ur feelings get in the way.

I answered the question posed by the OP. You've done nothing but take jabs at the player in question. Who's the one in their feelings, again?

[Myth]

This is where I think a range is needed for highest and lowest, because I don’t think he has a reasonable case for GOAT.

[SlovenianDragon]

There is no discussion or argument that "Pau carried Kobe". It's like saying Pippen carried Jordan, or Manu carried Duncan, or Kyrie carried Bron. It's lazy trolling to get a rise out of people because you're bored. Just because YOU don't like someone doesn't mean you have to make ridiculous claims to downplay their accomplishments.

Kobe couldnt have won without Pau.

This is an interesting thread where you have to rank them as lowest as possible... But you are letting ur feelings get in the way.

I answered the question posed by the OP. You've done nothing but take jabs at the player in question. Who's the one in their feelings, again?

Booker is my favorite player and he did really well in the playoffs last year... But if we won the chip it would have been because of Ayton.

And you have to look at Kobe in this same sense. Who was the most consistent player that actually put the team on their back. And that was Shaq and Pau.

[KembaWalker]

He'd be ranked a lot higher had the Lakers gotten Chris Paul

[Stalwart]

I would say anything lower than 11 is a major stretch. And even 11 seems a bit try hard.

If you're going strictly by resume then Kobe is #7 or #8. By resume I mean team success, individual distinction, statistics, intangibles, impact/influence, ect. By that criteria he would fall between 6-10, maybe 11.

If you are going to go by analytics, narratives, and personal taste then Kobe haters will always find a way to rank him egregiously low. He should be clearly above names like Jerry West, Oscar, Dr. J, KD, Moses, and Steph. And names like KG & Dirk honestly shouldn't even be included in this discussion. There is no real argument to put him below 11 and like I said even that is a stretch.

[Stalwart]

Kobe couldnt have won without Pau.

This is an interesting thread where you have to rank them as lowest as possible... But you are letting ur feelings get in the way.

I answered the question posed by the OP. You've done nothing but take jabs at the player in question. Who's the one in their feelings, again?

Booker is my favorite player and he did really well in the playoffs last year... But if we won the chip it would have been because of Ayton.

And you have to look at Kobe in this same sense. Who was the most consistent player that actually put the team on their back. And that was Shaq and Pau.

Troll ^