OdomFan wrote:jerok wrote:Man, seems like RealGm are mostly either Middle aged women/men going through mid life crisis.
Or a whole brainwashed generation about the mythical Michael Jordan.
Like I said earlier. If each teams didn't know anything about the other team, and they just played their games. GSW would win in 5 or 6. Likely 5. They'll be raining 3s and Bulls wouldn't know how to deal with it.
There are some ridiculous/delusional posts about the Bulls here. Some things off top of my head.
MJ Scoring - Bull Offense
MJ would score for sure, no one can stop a great offensive player.
But he would be facing probably the toughest defenders he's ever seen. Klay/Iggy/Dray/KD/Shaun ain't no Danny Ainge, Craig Ehlo, Dan Majerle, Rick Carisle, Bryon Russel, please.
We all know what undersized GP can do to MJ, now MJ is getting guarded by bigger/faster/stronger players than GP, and they ain't slouches on Defense.
GSW would sag away from players that can't shoot 3s and clamp the paint on MJ.
They would likely live with Rodman/Wennington/Longley Shooting Js, Pippen and Harper shooting 3s. But maybe stay home on Kukoc and Kerr.
Bulls would shut down GSW - MJ doesn't get tired.
Bulls have great defenders for sure.
Pippen would have to be on Durant 100%, its the Bulls best matchup for KD.
Rodman is one of the greatest defensive players ever. But he ain't seen anything like KD. Need length and speed to hopefully contain Durant. Rodman and Dray would be so good though.
MJ and Harper would have to chase Steph and Klay around. Chasing one of the splash Bro's would have no doubt affect MJ on the offensive end. He can't rest on defense like he is guarding Jeff Hornacek.
I have no words to whoever said MJ doesn't get tired. I mean come on he is human. Brainwashing at its finest.
As mentioned above, you can't stop MJ, a great offensive player, that also applies to KD / Steph / Klay
Steph and Klay wouldn't be able to get shots off
Reggie took MJ to game 7. Steph and Klays game evolved from Reggie's, I mean way evolved.
Bulls would have to deal with 3 Reggies, and all of them shoot as good if not better than him. Think about that.
I don't recall Hand checking eliminated picks in basketball. Reggie got through some picks, I have no doubt in my mind Steph and Klay would as well.
Reggie Millers Pacers took the Bulls to game 7 in 1998, not 1996 (the squad this topic is about) yet you're acting like the gap between those 2 seasons make no difference then turn around and call other peoples post in here ridiculous and delusional. Hilarious.
Not to mention that you're ignoring the how and why the 98 series even went to game 7 in the first place like for one.. game 4 of that series(and likely the most important one) where Reggie Miller gets nothing called on him for pushing Michael Jordan in front of everybody before drilling that bucket that went on to win them that game.
The 1996 Bulls would have more than likely beaten them in fewer games, and would most definitely do well against the 2017 Warriors as well which is why Curry himself agrees on hence why he believes it would go to 6 games, which in fact does make it a good series regardless of what the outcome of it all ends up being. He says the Warriors win, others say the Bulls but when it comes down to none of us will ever get to actually see what would happen.
trueballer7 wrote: As I said before, pre first retirement Jordan would be more than enough to beat the Warriors, they lack everything that could even reduce the slaughter to somewhat manageable levels. That said, Indiana took the 1998 Bulls to 7, not the 1996 Bulls.
I know Reggie took bulls to game 7 in 98. I watched that game you are referring to live. As a young kid I was devastated cause I was a huge Bulls fan. Reggie definitely pushed off, but don't tell me MJ never got this benefit from the refs. Superstars get superstar calls.
1998 or 1996, I don't see any rules that eliminated picks and running through screens which Reggie thrived in. What I can't comprehend is how brainwashed MJ fans would say Klay, Steph, KD won't be able to get off screens vs bulls, when Reggie could. WIth splash bros doing what Reggie does better and KD being a lethal scorer that he is.
Sure there is a difference between 98 bulls vs 96 bulls. But are you telling me that there isn't a difference between 2017 GSW vs 1998 Pacers when it comes to talent? Bulls were tasked to stop 1 elite player in Reggie, and he took them to game 7.
twyzted wrote:ccvle wrote:twyzted wrote:
He was chasing miller through screens for 7 games.
Did you actually watch the games? Jordan was not the primary defender on Miller. Jordan was not.
I watched them on tv 25 years ago, but yeah he wasnt the primary defender on miller, you answered before i could edit the post, harper was on miller but Jordan shut reggie down in 2nd half of game 7.
But he is going only by the game winner Reggie hit but jordan put 32 on miller and klay isnt stopping Jordan or slowing him down.
MJ always had Pip and Harper to help him guard the other teams best players.
VS GSW he would have to guard 1 of them full time. He'll be chasing Steph or Klay or KD around. MJ is amazing, but he won't be resting on Defense vs GSW. He is not sagging off Hersey Hawkins here.
LIke I mentioned above, Bulls had to stop 1 Superstar from Pacers, and they went to game 7. GSW has 3 of them.
For the record, I grew up as a Bulls fan. Die hard. But I am not brainwashed or delusional when it comes to comparisons like this, you have to accept fact when it is presented in front of you.
Bulls were great, but as I mentioned a few times. If both teams did not know each other and were pitted in a game 7 series. GSW would win, their game evolved, too much fire power too many 3s.
MJ and the bulls would have never seen a team like this.
GSW never seen MJ and they aren't stopping MJ, but the players competed vs Kobe/LeBron, which has some resemblance of MJ. Once GSW figures out some players can't shoot they'll clamp the paint on MJ and force the others to beat them.
If you gave the bulls some time to adjust. Then maybe it'll be different. But dropped in a 7 game series, versus a team 21 years from the future, it'll be too much even for the great 96 bulls team.