realball wrote:
If Russell is a low level scorer, what does that make Simmons? Simmons never even scored over 17 ppg, why would be suddenly become a 20 ppg scorer on another team? Was he lacking touches on the Sixers or something?
Russell is a low level volume scorer in the sense that scoring is supposed to be one of his strengths as a player but his volume is not htat high and his efficiency low and he did it on bad teams that no one prepared for. That's not something that a good team needs, especially at that contract. His main perk as strength as a player is that he can make some plays and score some points. If he is not good enough to do it on a good team (a team that lets him do that will not be good) where does this leave him as a player? The answer is to play on bad teams and pad his stats.
Simmons, even with his ft issues, is a much more efficient scorer (58% vs 53 career wise) on a somewhat similar volume (15.9 vs 17.7) while playing on teams that didnt fit his style and having other players around him that needed touches. And he has played on good teams, not bottom feeders that no one gameplans for like Russell. If not for Embiid and on a team built around his strengths i dont have any doubt that he could move from a 16 ppg scorer to a 20 ppg scorer while keeping his efficiency.
realball wrote:You just keep saying "you put the right team around Simmons and he's a star". You could say that for Russell too. You put the right team around him and he will be an All-Star again. Russell hasn't had the luxury of playing with a top 5 player like Simmons has had. Be consistent with your arguments, stop putting pumping up Simmons by putting him in hypothetical scenarios and then trashing everyone else.
Built a team around what? An offense only guy with bad efficiency. Part of the reason Russell's teams were bad was that the ball was a lot of time in his hands. He is not good enough at what he is good at to do that on good teams. He either needs to play on bad teams (which will be bad partly because of him) and pad his stats or reinvent his game and role and become an off the bench scorer for a good team.
realball wrote:So what if other teams moved on from Russell? The Nets traded him so they could get Kyrie and Durant. The Warriors got Wiggins and Kuminga for him. If anything it should show you how much Russell is really worth.
Well, what does it tell you when every team moved him as soon as they wanted to become competitive. If he was a winning player they would try to keep him. And he had negative value even then, Wiggins was seen as a terrible contract at the time, yet the Warriors preferred him because he actually can have a role on a good team, even though overpaid.
realball wrote:I mean Simmons clearly has mental issues. It's not just him sitting out, it's him not being able to take a three and or make a free throw. Once again, just you being delusional.
Huh? He is a bad shooter, and doesnt take a lot of long range shots because he is not a low IQ chucker. Being a bad ft shooter is equated with having mental issues now? I am not sure who is the delusional here.
realball wrote: It's hilarious that you make assumptions like "Simmons value hasn't dropped" with zero reasoning. Why would a player who is a malcontent and a choker in the playoffs still be judged on his regular season play from a year ago? Do you NBA GMs have dementia or something? Why would a GM trade for Simmons knowing that he could pull this crap on them in the future?
As i said, GMs know what Simmons can and cant do, including his issues in the postseason. Whether he plays or not doesnt change that. What has changed is that teams are trying to get him for peanuts after his trade requests. These are two different things, SImmons' perceived on court value hasnt really changed, his trade value has currently changed due to the circumstancs and that's why the Sixers are currently refusing to make a trade.
realball wrote:Why would any team be "forced" to trade for Simmons when he barely improves his own team? Sixers were #1 in the East without him this season before Joel got injured, so why would anyone see Simmons as being their franchise's saviour? Use your brain man.
A team might be forced to rebuild, at which point they will try to get as much value for their star as they can. Simmons might be their best option at that point (either keeping him or redirecting him elsewhere) because established teams that will trade for a star typically dont have (or want trade) hihg level young talent or lottery picks.
realball wrote:Yeah the issue is me overrating future HOFer Damian Lillard and not you overrating two-time All-Star Simmons lol. Good one.
Who tf cares whether Lillard will be in the HOF or not? What teams care about is his future performance, and his combination of age, height and salary is not looking terribly good.
realball wrote:You think Sixers fans not complaining about their team is somehow proof that Morey is doing just fine? Your arguments are just getting lamer.
Lol, team's fans are generally the first ones to compalin about management moves, especially on these forums. They know the team better than random fans and they care about Sixers winning a title, unlike guys like you. If Sixers fans dont complain, chances are that what Morey is doing makes sense (whether it works or not).
realball wrote:Embiid being injury-prone is a fear that he might miss games, not that his abilities are suddenly going to decline. He is leading his team to a top 5 record in the East despite not having Simmons AND missing a bunch of games. Why would you just assume those picks are going to be valuable, especially if they are traded for another superstar like Lillard? You think the Blazers would rather trade for picks that MIGHT be valuable, or trade Lillard for picks that actually will be valuable?
Embiid missing games because of nagging injuries makes the Sixer's pick more attractive. Nagging injuries increase the possibility of a serious injury or a quicker decline as Embiid gets older. It's not a certainty but nothing is a certainty when talking about picks. Sixers future picks are rather valuable compared to other teams (exept for perpetually terrible teams like the Timberwolves) and this doesnt change if they trade for an old guy like Lillard.