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How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:34 am
by schnakenpopanz
I don't follow the hawks that much, but this is a huge disappointment after the ECF last year so far.
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:40 am
by pr0wler
One player = an entire team of 15 players and coaching staff?
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:16 am
by cl2117
4th in points per game on solid efficiency, 3rd in assists per game. Definitely an all-star.
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:18 am
by Pachinko_
Because we are intelligent enough to separate player performance from team performance.
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:25 am
by SUPERVILLAIN
4th in PPG. 3rd in APG.
That's why.
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:52 am
by kio80
This is a huge disappointment of a thread
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Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:00 pm
by dans1230
schnakenpopanz wrote:I don't follow the hawks that much, but this is a huge disappointment after the ECF last year so far.
The teams play and record has been dissapointing, and i dont follow the Hawks closely but its pretty obvious that Trae Young is an all star level player.
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:25 pm
by elillo
Because you don't need to play defense in the all-star game.
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:25 pm
by KembaWalker
Until the metrics that show that he basically gives back everything he gets and more become mainstream guys like that will keep making all star games. Which will never happen
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:37 pm
by PhilBlackson
Post his individual stats instead of the team stats and you'll figure it out.
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:41 pm
by schnakenpopanz
So the logic is: 40 pts per game and 0-40 record guarantees you an all star birth?
I think it goes both ways.
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Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:43 pm
by Oscirus
One all star on a bad team is fine, now if they were getting multiple all star picks..
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:44 pm
by DroseReturnChi
trae young is still a star. stars do exist on horrible teams.
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:53 pm
by rate_
Here's the TOP 15 East teams currently in order and how many all stars they'll probably get:
Chicago - 2 (DeRozan, Lavine)
Miami - 1 (Jimmy)
Brooklyn - 2 (KD, Harden)
Milwaukee - 2 (Giannis, Middleton/Jrue)
Philadelphia - 1 (Embiid)
Cleveland - 1 (Garland/Jafro)
Charlotte - 1 (Lamelo)
Toronto - 0
Washington - 0
Boston - 1 (Tatum/Brown)
New York - 0
Atlanta - 1 (Trae)
Indiana - 0
Detroit - 0
Orlando - 0
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:09 pm
by shakes0
Last season Boston had 2 all stars AND a losing record.
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:19 pm
by druggas
Pachinko_ wrote:Because we are intelligent enough to separate player performance from team performance.
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:22 pm
by rate_
shakes0 wrote:Last season Boston had 2 all stars AND a losing record.
And Miami had 0 all stars and a winning record
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:23 pm
by Lockdown504090
rate_ wrote:Here's the TOP 15 East teams currently in order and how many all stars they'll probably get:
Chicago - 2 (DeRozan, Lavine)
Miami - 1 (Jimmy)
Brooklyn - 2 (KD, Harden)
Milwaukee - 2 (Giannis, Middleton/Jrue)
Philadelphia - 1 (Embiid)
Cleveland - 1 (Garland/Jafro)
Charlotte - 1 (Lamelo)
Toronto - 0
Washington - 0
Boston - 1 (Tatum/Brown)
New York - 0
Atlanta - 1 (Trae)
Indiana - 0
Detroit - 0
Orlando - 0
if trae young and tatum and garland makes it, why doesnt fvv make it over lamelo and garland tho? Hes closer in record to garland than trae, has better stats and defense than them? he will probably get in due to covid/injuries, but this is many ppls all star ballot and it just doesnt make sense to me.
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:27 pm
by pipfan
I am not a fan of Young at all, but he is clearly an All Star
Re: How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:29 pm
by rate_
Lockdown504090 wrote:rate_ wrote:Here's the TOP 15 East teams currently in order and how many all stars they'll probably get:
Chicago - 2 (DeRozan, Lavine)
Miami - 1 (Jimmy)
Brooklyn - 2 (KD, Harden)
Milwaukee - 2 (Giannis, Middleton/Jrue)
Philadelphia - 1 (Embiid)
Cleveland - 1 (Garland/Jafro)
Charlotte - 1 (Lamelo)
Toronto - 0
Washington - 0
Boston - 1 (Tatum/Brown)
New York - 0
Atlanta - 1 (Trae)
Indiana - 0
Detroit - 0
Orlando - 0
if trae young and tatum and garland makes it, why doesnt fvv make it over lamelo and garland tho? Hes closer in record to garland than trae, has better stats and defense than them?
All star is more of a popularity contest. I think LaMelo makes it over FVV just off popularity. With Garland, it's a possibility that Jafro gets picked instead, but Cleveland deserves an all star nonetheless as they're 1st among the East in net rating with a better record than Toronto. The East in general is stacked with guards so FVV might be on the outside looking in. And as someone mentioned, Boston had 2 all stars with a losing record. One of Tatum/Brown is guaranteed to make it.