How impressive is giannis' ring/season?

[Gibson22]

I was wondering about giannis, and comparing him to where lebron was after 2012. Obviously, the guy's an alien, there's hardly been anybody so accomplished at the age of 27, 1fmvp, 2 mvps (currently front runner for #3) 1 dpoy, etc.
I think giannis has been in contention for best player in the world obviously fom 2018-19 on, when he won his first mvp. But in 2019 and 2020 (also injuries) he underperformed in the playoffs, and in 2019 the best player was unarguably leonard with his run, and in 2020 we have lebron and AD.
2021, it's hard to not give it to giannis. You could argue jokic, who had a better rs and got swept in the second round but jamal murray was injured, or joel, who lost thanks to simmons, or maybe doncic who had a great rs and first round against the clippers, but at the end of the day all these guys didn't even make the conference finals.

However, how impressive is giannis' playoff run?
On the one hand, he averaged 30/13/5 on 60% TS and elite defense, and 3 TOVs, he overcame injuries, and averaged 35/13/5 on 66% TS in the finals. And he also did this without jumping ships or with a superteam. On the other hand, he faced the hawks and the suns, not exactly two superteams, in the ECF and Nba finals, and he basically got eliminated by the nets without (more or less) harden and kyrie.

[C0bR]

Not very. He is manufactured entirely by NBA's ridiculous rules and and even more ridiculous reffing which bends those rules even further to create stars based on the whims of the commish.

Anyone who has ever watched Giannis to play FIBA knows that he cannot play basketball.

[chilluminati]

It's undeniably impressive. The factors that detract from that season are the same that LeBron faced when he won in 2020. People want to put an asterisk next to these last two rings. 2020 due to the bubble, and 2021 due to almost every team in the playoffs being effected heavily by injuries. But none of that was in Giannis' control, and as many have said, it takes luck to win a championship. And the Bucks were lucky that they stayed (relatively) healthy.

[Johnny Firpo]

Not very. He is manufactured entirely by NBA's ridiculous rules and and even more ridiculous reffing which bends those rules even further to create stars based on the whims of the commish.

Anyone who has ever watched Giannis to play FIBA knows that he cannot play basketball.

Man, tell us how you really feel!

[jordanwilliams6]

It’s hard to compare him to all time greats until he does it again. In saying that, it’s probably the best playoff run I’ve seen in the last 15 years (all that is relevant to me).

[Gibson22]

Not very. He is manufactured entirely by NBA's ridiculous rules and and even more ridiculous reffing which bends those rules even further to create stars based on the whims of the commish.

Anyone who has ever watched Giannis to play FIBA knows that he cannot play basketball.

I don't like polarized opinions

[KGtabake]

Giannis is competing against himself from now and on.
Do it again. Win the MVP and DPOY again. In the same season. Be the only one who wins both the accolades in the same season multiple times.
He has the PER record all time. Break it again.
Win the finals MVP again.
Rince. Repeat.
At the age of 26, he won everything. Nobody else did it at his age.
MJ and Hakeem the other two with a complete resume but later than him. Nobody else.
The likes of Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, LeBron, Durant etc never won the DPOY... Giannis did.

Think about that.

Read on Twitter

One of the most impressive rings.
Definitely top5.
1. Hakeem '94
2. Dirk '11
3. Giannis '21
4. Steph '15
5. Isiah '89-'90

[KnicksGadfly]

It’s hard to compare him to all time greats until he does it again. In saying that, it’s probably the best playoff run I’ve seen in the last 15 years (all that is relevant to me).

Right, but a lot of the repeat winners took the easy way out. I think Kawhi is the only one I can think in recent memory with multiple rings where I say, damn he actually earned that. Lebron, for example, has many rings, but the only one I really respect is the Cleveland one.

[Dutchball97]

Giannis is competing against himself from now and on.
Do it again. Win the MVP and DPOY again. In the same season. Be the only one who wins both the accolades in the same season multiple times.
He has the PER record all time. Break it again.
Win the finals MVP again.
Rince. Repeat.
At the age of 26, he won everything. Nobody else did it at his age.
MJ and Hakeem the other two with a complete resume but later than him. Nobody else.
The likes of Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, LeBron, Durant etc never won the DPOY... Giannis did.

Think about that.

Read on Twitter

One of the most impressive rings.
Definitely top5.
1. Hakeem '94
2. Dirk '11
3. Giannis '21
4. Steph '15
5. Isiah '89-'90

Duncan in 03 is at least top 3 rings of all-time. Robinson was on his way out, while Manu and Parker weren't stars yet.

[KGtabake]

Giannis is competing against himself from now and on.
Do it again. Win the MVP and DPOY again. In the same season. Be the only one who wins both the accolades in the same season multiple times.
He has the PER record all time. Break it again.
Win the finals MVP again.
Rince. Repeat.
At the age of 26, he won everything. Nobody else did it at his age.
MJ and Hakeem the other two with a complete resume but later than him. Nobody else.
The likes of Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, LeBron, Durant etc never won the DPOY... Giannis did.

Think about that.

Read on Twitter

One of the most impressive rings.
Definitely top5.
1. Hakeem '94
2. Dirk '11
3. Giannis '21
4. Steph '15
5. Isiah '89-'90

Duncan in 03 is at least top 3 rings of all-time. Robinson was on his way out, while Manu and Parker weren't stars yet.

Top3 no, not a chance. It's locked between Dirk, Hakeem and Giannis.
Top5 yes, he may have a case.
Ginobili was the best player not playing in the NBA by a comfortable margin and i think it showed the moment he stepped his foot on an NBA court. Agreed about Parker tho.

[Mansurton]

Giannis is competing against himself from now and on.
Do it again. Win the MVP and DPOY again. In the same season. Be the only one who wins both the accolades in the same season multiple times.
He has the PER record all time. Break it again.
Win the finals MVP again.
Rince. Repeat.
At the age of 26, he won everything. Nobody else did it at his age.
MJ and Hakeem the other two with a complete resume but later than him. Nobody else.
The likes of Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, LeBron, Durant etc never won the DPOY... Giannis did.

Think about that.

Read on Twitter

One of the most impressive rings.
Definitely top5.
1. Hakeem '94
2. Dirk '11
3. Giannis '21
4. Steph '15
5. Isiah '89-'90

Steph in 15? Against Lebron and the Cleveland G-Leaguers? Come on dude

[Dutchball97]

Giannis is competing against himself from now and on.
Do it again. Win the MVP and DPOY again. In the same season. Be the only one who wins both the accolades in the same season multiple times.
He has the PER record all time. Break it again.
Win the finals MVP again.
Rince. Repeat.
At the age of 26, he won everything. Nobody else did it at his age.
MJ and Hakeem the other two with a complete resume but later than him. Nobody else.
The likes of Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, LeBron, Durant etc never won the DPOY... Giannis did.

Think about that.

Read on Twitter

One of the most impressive rings.
Definitely top5.
1. Hakeem '94
2. Dirk '11
3. Giannis '21
4. Steph '15
5. Isiah '89-'90

Duncan in 03 is at least top 3 rings of all-time. Robinson was on his way out, while Manu and Parker weren't stars yet.

Top3 no, not a chance. It's locked between Dirk, Hakeem and Giannis.
Top5 yes, he may have a case.
Ginobili was the best player not playing in the NBA by a comfortable margin and i think it showed the moment he stepped his foot on an NBA court. Agreed about Parker tho.

Hard disagree on this. Manu was good but he played 20mpg in the regular season and 27mpg in the play-offs. He averaged 7.6 ppg on 44% from the field in the regular season and 9.4 ppg on 39% from the field in the play-offs. How you can think that is more impactful than two legit All-Star level players in Middleton and Holiday is beyond me.

Dirk in 2011 is arguable as is 94 Hakeem but no other ring comes close to Duncan's 03 campaign.

[hauntedcomputer]

Walton in '77 and Moses in '83 would like a word. I rank both as far more impressive than Dirk's. Dirk went 9-27 in the closeout game. That was a true team effort although Dirk was the leader. Walton was uncanny and everywhere, and Moses dominated a player who has a legit GOAT argument. Both were the best players in the world at those particular times, and you could never say that about Dirk.

Giannis is the best player in the world right now and it looks like he's doing it again. Impressive. My wife doesn't know anything about basketball, watched 30 seconds of a Bucks game with me, pointed at Giannis, and said, "That guy is the best player." That's the eye test in action.

[KGtabake]

Giannis is competing against himself from now and on.
Do it again. Win the MVP and DPOY again. In the same season. Be the only one who wins both the accolades in the same season multiple times.
He has the PER record all time. Break it again.
Win the finals MVP again.
Rince. Repeat.
At the age of 26, he won everything. Nobody else did it at his age.
MJ and Hakeem the other two with a complete resume but later than him. Nobody else.
The likes of Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, LeBron, Durant etc never won the DPOY... Giannis did.

Think about that.

Read on Twitter

One of the most impressive rings.
Definitely top5.
1. Hakeem '94
2. Dirk '11
3. Giannis '21
4. Steph '15
5. Isiah '89-'90

Steph in 15? Against Lebron and the Cleveland G-Leaguers? Come on dude

It was not Steph fault that the Cavs got injured in the Finals.
Who had the warriors winning it all in the summer of '14? They came out of nowhere.
Everybody had the Cavs, the Thunder, the Clippers, the Spurs or the Rockets winning.
Context always matters.

[DroseReturnChi]

close to dirks and better than lebron/kds cheap rings.

[Mansurton]

Giannis is competing against himself from now and on.
Do it again. Win the MVP and DPOY again. In the same season. Be the only one who wins both the accolades in the same season multiple times.
He has the PER record all time. Break it again.
Win the finals MVP again.
Rince. Repeat.
At the age of 26, he won everything. Nobody else did it at his age.
MJ and Hakeem the other two with a complete resume but later than him. Nobody else.
The likes of Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, LeBron, Durant etc never won the DPOY... Giannis did.

Think about that.

Read on Twitter

One of the most impressive rings.
Definitely top5.
1. Hakeem '94
2. Dirk '11
3. Giannis '21
4. Steph '15
5. Isiah '89-'90

Steph in 15? Against Lebron and the Cleveland G-Leaguers? Come on dude

It was not Steph fault that the Cavs got injured in the Finals.
Who had the warriors winning it all in the summer of '14? They came out of nowhere.
Everybody had the Cavs, the Thunder, the Clippers, the Spurs or the Rockets winning.
Context always matters.

But Steph didn't even win finals MVP.. How was it impressive when his role player teammate won the award for keeping Lebron to 36 pts, 13 reb, and 9 ast? Had even one of Love or Irving been healthy that series is over in 5 and the Warriors probably never would have taken off. Yes it's revisionists history but to say Steph's ring is top five all time is absolutely ludicrous

[KembaWalker]

Not very. He is manufactured entirely by NBA's ridiculous rules and and even more ridiculous reffing which bends those rules even further to create stars based on the whims of the commish.

Anyone who has ever watched Giannis to play FIBA knows that he cannot play basketball.

This is savage af but I don't think it's too far off. I remember young Giannis had some degree of craftiness and skill to his game but when I watch him this year he's literally just trying to steamroll guys and then either shoot free throws or complain. Only in the NBA can you just lower your shoulders and elbows into completely standard by the book defensively stanced players and just get free throws for it. It's very silly to watch him actually play, as much as I like him for his off the court stuff, personality, small market loyalty etc

[Mansurton]

Not very. He is manufactured entirely by NBA's ridiculous rules and and even more ridiculous reffing which bends those rules even further to create stars based on the whims of the commish.

Anyone who has ever watched Giannis to play FIBA knows that he cannot play basketball.

This is savage af but I don't think it's too far off. I remember young Giannis had some degree of craftiness and skill to his game but when I watch him this year he's literally just trying to steamroll guys and then either shoot free throws or complain. Only in the NBA can you just lower your shoulders and elbows into completely standard by the book defensively stanced players and just get free throws for it. It's very silly to watch him actually play, as much as I like him for his off the court stuff, personality, small market loyalty etc

It's been this way for years as far as I'm concerned. He's almost unwatchable, he has no skill

[Wooderson]

Not very. He is manufactured entirely by NBA's ridiculous rules and and even more ridiculous reffing which bends those rules even further to create stars based on the whims of the commish.

Anyone who has ever watched Giannis to play FIBA knows that he cannot play basketball.

This is savage af but I don't think it's too far off. I remember young Giannis had some degree of craftiness and skill to his game but when I watch him this year he's literally just trying to steamroll guys and then either shoot free throws or complain. Only in the NBA can you just lower your shoulders and elbows into completely standard by the book defensively stanced players and just get free throws for it. It's very silly to watch him actually play, as much as I like him for his off the court stuff, personality, small market loyalty etc

It's been this way for years as far as I'm concerned. He's almost unwatchable, he has no skill

Well he's 10x the passer of iso chuckers like Tatum or Brown. So at least he has that going for him.

[KGtabake]

Duncan in 03 is at least top 3 rings of all-time. Robinson was on his way out, while Manu and Parker weren't stars yet.

Top3 no, not a chance. It's locked between Dirk, Hakeem and Giannis.
Top5 yes, he may have a case.
Ginobili was the best player not playing in the NBA by a comfortable margin and i think it showed the moment he stepped his foot on an NBA court. Agreed about Parker tho.

Hard disagree on this. Manu was good but he played 20mpg in the regular season and 27mpg in the play-offs. He averaged 7.6 ppg on 44% from the field in the regular season and 9.4 ppg on 39% from the field in the play-offs. How you can think that is more impactful than two legit All-Star level players in Middleton and Holiday is beyond me.

Dirk in 2011 is arguable as is 94 Hakeem but no other ring comes close to Duncan's 03 campaign.

You act like Spurs were trash.
Mate, Duncan had Pop as coach.
Giannis has Budenholzer.
Coaching was in the same level?

A 37 year old Robinson was still dropping 11/7/2 blocks in the Finals in 26 mins, while shooting 65%.
Brook Lopez as a starting center for the Bucks had 11/5/0.7 with 48% in the same minutes.

Parker wasn't a star but he still had 14/4/4 with 42% from 3 in the Finals.

I don't know what's exactly beyond you. It's just an opinion. It doesn't weigh more than yours.