Luka Doncic “It’s easier to score 30 points in the NBA compared to the Euro league”
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Luka Doncic “It’s easier to score 30 points in the NBA compared to the Euro league”
It’s been a lot of chatter from the younger fans saying the players todays are so much more talented then players from the past due to all these 50 point games recently. But here we have a current NBA player that pretty much says that a lesser league (euro league) is tougher to score then the NBA. That’s kinda eye opening. Thoughts?
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Rules that made the game charmin soft are why

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falcolombardi wrote:not really
Not really what ?
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celticfan42487 wrote:Rules that made the game charmin soft are why
Exactly, I be telling people this all the time. It’s just a totally diff game from 20 yrs ago.
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He explained it's because of the 3 second rules and bigger court. Plus 1Q is 10 minutes not 12. He said there is no comparison when it comes to talent, NBA is obviously much more talented league but rules do not allow centers to camp under the rim in the NBA.
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Sprewell4Three wrote:falcolombardi wrote:not really
Not really what ?
that is easier to score in the nba
nba has more minutes and last i checked a generally faster pace, but the scoring efficiency is not higher that it is in European leagues despite better offensive talent
even luka was a more efficient scorer in his last European season thst he was coming into the nba so it goes against the idea that it became easier for him to score
coming into the playoffs is not even close, if European defenses were really tougher than nba defenses those players would already be in the nba, the defensive talent in the nba is much, much higher
is just that the offensive talent is much higher too so it evens out
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celticfan42487 wrote:Rules that made the game charmin soft are why
Like legit that’s all this comes down too. The rules form what we are today. The rules of different eras form the kind of basketball of that era. Of course offenses have gotten better and better too.
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Euroleague is tougher. No lies there. It wasn't always the case but here we are. Smh.
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The defensive 3 seconds rule is a game changer, I prefer the NBA rules.
Defense wins draft lotteries!
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In the current NBA the top 3 players are already huge 7'+ guys (Giannis, Embiid, Jokic), no need to make the game even easier for that type of player to dominate with no 3 second defense rule and a smaller court.
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Olympics isn't EuroLeague but it's worth taking a look at how Luka did in Tokyo last summer compared to this season.
2021 Olympics
17.8 FGAs, 23.8 PPG (.570 TS%)
2021/2022 NBA
21.8 FGAs, 28.2 PPG (.564 TS%)
The lower PPG is due to lower FGAs (which is mostly due to fewer minutes/possessions in a game). If the FGAs are equalized, the PPG gap is almost entirely closed (27.6 to 28.2) even before we take in account additional FTAs from the extra minutes/possessions. So "easier to score 30 points" might be true but not for the reason one would think. It's easier to score more points when the game is 20% longer.
Also worth noting that in his last EuroLeague season at age 19, Luka shot 61.1% TS which blows away his NBA career average of 57.1%
2021 Olympics
17.8 FGAs, 23.8 PPG (.570 TS%)
2021/2022 NBA
21.8 FGAs, 28.2 PPG (.564 TS%)
The lower PPG is due to lower FGAs (which is mostly due to fewer minutes/possessions in a game). If the FGAs are equalized, the PPG gap is almost entirely closed (27.6 to 28.2) even before we take in account additional FTAs from the extra minutes/possessions. So "easier to score 30 points" might be true but not for the reason one would think. It's easier to score more points when the game is 20% longer.
Also worth noting that in his last EuroLeague season at age 19, Luka shot 61.1% TS which blows away his NBA career average of 57.1%
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Archx wrote:He explained it's because of the 3 second rules and bigger court. Plus 1Q is 10 minutes not 12. He said there is no comparison when it comes to talent, NBA is obviously much more talented league but rules do not allow centers to camp under the rim in the NBA.
That wont stop people from using this quote out of context to prop up their idea that todays NBA is a lot softer
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falcolombardi wrote:Sprewell4Three wrote:falcolombardi wrote:not really
Not really what ?
that is easier to score in the nba
nba has more minutes and last i checked a generally faster pace, but the scoring efficiency is not higher that it is in European leagues despite better offensive talent
even luka was a more efficient scorer in his last European season thst he was coming into the nba so it goes against the idea that it became easier for him to score
coming into the playoffs is not even close, if European defenses were really tougher than nba defenses those players would already be in the nba, the defensive talent in the nba is much, much higher
is just that the offensive talent is much higher too so it evens out
Yeah, and I'm rather gonna listen to you than someone who actually played and exceeded in both leagues

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Idk how you listened to what luka said and then made this thread and wrote what you wrote.
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Luka explains it really well. It's not a knock on the NBA, it's simply the rules, a cerebral player is paying attention to things like 3 seconds in the paint, fishing for fouls (though the NBA has reduced that this year), there is more space, the game is longer etc. That is what makes it way easier for really good players to score, as opposed to Europe where spaces are clogged and you have less time overall.
And it's pretty obvious that NBA players could indeed score 50 points every other game, if they were solely focused on stats and weren't concerned with getting teammates involved and the general flow of the game, but it wouldn't necessarily be a winning formula.
That said, he also states clearly that NBA players are way better than Euroleague players. That's definitely not a debate. It's not uncommon to match up with Euroleague guys indoor or outdoor pick up games here in Europe. The difference between the end of the bench guys and random dudes just playing outside isn't always very clear. The same can't be said about NBA players.
And it's pretty obvious that NBA players could indeed score 50 points every other game, if they were solely focused on stats and weren't concerned with getting teammates involved and the general flow of the game, but it wouldn't necessarily be a winning formula.
That said, he also states clearly that NBA players are way better than Euroleague players. That's definitely not a debate. It's not uncommon to match up with Euroleague guys indoor or outdoor pick up games here in Europe. The difference between the end of the bench guys and random dudes just playing outside isn't always very clear. The same can't be said about NBA players.
So many people who attain the heights of power in this culture—celebrities, for instance—have to make a show of false humility and modesty, as if they got as far as they did by accident and not by ego or ambition.
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When you have NBA superstar talent, of course NBA is easier to score, wider court, faster pace, more minutes. But go ask Dzanan Musa, or Hezonja, or Melli, or Campazzo, or Guduric, or Larkin how easy it is to score in the NBA... DID NBA empowered scorers too much? Sure, but NBA superstar saying this means nothing.
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nba encourages high scoring game
nba is more about entertainment than sports
nba is more about entertainment than sports
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Sprewell4Three wrote:It’s been a lot of chatter from the younger fans saying the players todays are so much more talented then players from the past due to all these 50 point games recently. But here we have a current NBA player that pretty much says that a lesser league (euro league) is tougher to score then the NBA. That’s kinda eye opening. Thoughts?
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I agree. But if you do not agree with the narrative that everything now is better you get the old man yelling at clouds/get off my lawn rhetoric.
The NBA has done all it can to promote offense...so why is it a surprise when you see that players are finding it easier to score?....
I'm so tired of the typical......