Is RJ Barrett being slept on as a potential future All Star?

[Vampirate]

Yes, his FG% and 3P% took a noticeable dip from last season.

However what might be overlooked is he's getting to the FT line at a very good rate at 5.7 FT attempts a game, this is an attribute a lot of All Stars have is simply being able to get to the line at a high rate.

Derozan for a while had his FG% hovering between 41%-44% similarly to RJ, however Derozan never developed an even below average 3 point shot till later in his career, it was constantly 30% or below. RJ's three point shooting looks like it's going to be around 34%-37% on average i'd say, given the limited data sample.

Barret is already a better rebounder and playmaker than Derozan after the first 3 years, which spells well at him contributing in more than 1 aspect in the game.

Early Derozan was regarded as an inefficient chucker, a moniker i don't think RJ shares.

I don't know if RJ will get to the scorer Derozan is today, but it's still food for thought.

[life_saver]

why do people still use FG% for assessing efficiency of a player? especially for a guard/wing who shoots decent number of 3's? Just use EFG%

[MotownMadness]

IDK about being overlooked if his label is potential All Star. Sure he has the potential to be one but hes currently not. I would imagine most people view him this way.

[Vampirate]

why do people still use FG% for assessing efficiency of a player? especially for a guard/wing who shoots decent number of 3's? Just use EFG%

I'm using both though, both his FG% and his 3P shooting % are down from last season. He's scoring less efficient from the field, but is getting to the FT line more.

When you have a player who can do all 3, you are looking at an All Star scorer, basically scoring 20+ points on 45+ FG%/ 35+ 3P%/ 70+ FT% while getting to the line a lot.

[Lalouie]

he's a 70%ft'er
what's the point

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Man's shooting under 40% for the month. His 2pt% is pretty low as well.

Usually people averaging 18 FGA per 36 minutes have higher than a 13.8 PER, So I'm not sure just how much he's really giving you statisticly. Last year he had a 13.4 PER and was better from every area (2pt/3pt/FT) so there's definitely room to improve efficiency wise. He has a good game or run of games and the knicks board are calling him a future allstar though, yes. He's gotta take a big leap like derozan, I think sometimes these volume scorers who are pretty young can figure it out and have their efficiency improve.

[Vampirate]

Man's shooting under 40% for the month. His 2pt% is pretty low as well.

Usually people averaging 18 FGA per 36 minutes have higher than a 13.8 PER, So I'm not sure just how much he's really giving you statisticly. Last year he had a 13.4 PER and was better from every area (2pt/3pt/FT) so there's definitely room to improve efficiency wise.

No doubt he's not an all Star 'now', but there are positive signs he's trending in the right direction. Like his FT rate.

He's also a far better shooter/scorer than his rookie year as well.

Let's see what year 4 holds for him.

[bisme37]

I really like RJ and think he can certainly make a couple allstar games in his career. He's only 21 and he's had to carry and big load this year with Randle struggling and he's done a great job and seems to be developing nicely.

[Godymas]

at this point if i'm a NYK fan i'm questioning why he was taken before Garland

but he still has time to grow

[Egg Nog]

Would you say that he is being slept on as potentially getting his TS% out of Russell Westbrook territory in the future?

That's going to be the biggest factor by far.

[djsunyc]

empty calorie player so far. doesn't make his teammates better and he's an inefficient scorer. alot of these type of players in the league.

[Mike87]

I think it’s great for his development to be the semi first option and taking a ton of shots as he has the last few months. He has a ways to go to reach all star level though. Still very young but he needs to make some big strides these next few years.

[meekrab]

Let's see him get his offensive efficiency out of Marcus Smart territory before we start talking about future all star.

[Collymore]

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[Roco14]

For some reason i think he'll have a similar career arc as D'angelo Russell

[Scalabrine]

I think the tools are definitely there, he's put up long stretches of really good, efficient basketball but then he goes on stretches where he can't hit a shot. I like this little stretch for him though, even if the shots aren't going in. He keeps his head down and works hard. You don't seem him complaining a ton, even though he's been getting a bunch of contact and making an effort to get to the line.

His defense and his demeanor are what makes me look at him as a an NBA player for a long time. I think he has a ways to go before people start looking at him as an All-Star. Having a real point guard on the roster should go a long way too. It's not a coincidence that he took off last year and was consistently good around the same time as when Rose was acquired.

I don't expect this thread to go well though. A bunch of people who don't watch the Knicks are gonna come in here acting like they know what they are talking about.

[Murray_17]

Yes, his FG% and 3P% took a noticeable dip from last season.

However what might be overlooked is he's getting to the FT line at a very good rate at 5.7 FT attempts a game, this is an attribute a lot of All Stars have is simply being able to get to the line at a high rate.

Derozan for a while had his FG% hovering between 41%-44% similarly to RJ, however Derozan never developed an even below average 3 point shot till later in his career, it was constantly 30% or below. RJ's three point shooting looks like it's going to be around 34%-37% on average i'd say, given the limited data sample.

Barret is already a better rebounder and playmaker than Derozan after the first 3 years, which spells well at him contributing in more than 1 aspect in the game.

Early Derozan was regarded as an inefficient chucker, a moniker i don't think RJ shares.

I don't know if RJ will get to the scorer Derozan is today, but it's still food for thought.

His FT rate is irrelevant if he'snot hitting his FTs at a good rate.

The fact he cannot get above 80% as a ft shoter, in fact, suggest he will be an inneficient volume scorer.

To me, his celling, looks like a fringe possible all star or a 6th man on teams who need scoring from the bench, a Jordan Clarkson type of player

[Vampirate]

For some reason i think he'll have a similar career arc as D'angelo Russell

RJ vs D'angelo First 3 years

Nope, RJ has 2 inches on Russell and is stronger.

Aside from that RJ has already posted a better FG% and 3P% in 1 year than Russell ever has.

Russell despite being a PG isn't a really good scorer, he's a decent-good 3 point shooter but RJ has already demonstrated a better ability to get to the line, easily.

I would say RJ won't become the distributer Russell did but his overall game/ceiling is higher imo.

[Vampirate]

Yes, his FG% and 3P% took a noticeable dip from last season.

However what might be overlooked is he's getting to the FT line at a very good rate at 5.7 FT attempts a game, this is an attribute a lot of All Stars have is simply being able to get to the line at a high rate.

Derozan for a while had his FG% hovering between 41%-44% similarly to RJ, however Derozan never developed an even below average 3 point shot till later in his career, it was constantly 30% or below. RJ's three point shooting looks like it's going to be around 34%-37% on average i'd say, given the limited data sample.

Barret is already a better rebounder and playmaker than Derozan after the first 3 years, which spells well at him contributing in more than 1 aspect in the game.

Early Derozan was regarded as an inefficient chucker, a moniker i don't think RJ shares.

I don't know if RJ will get to the scorer Derozan is today, but it's still food for thought.

His FT rate is irrelevant if he'snot hitting his FTs at a good rate.

The fact he cannot get above 80% as a ft shoter, in fact, suggest he will be an inneficient volume scorer.

To me, his celling, looks like a fringe possible all star or a 6th man on teams who need scoring from the bench, a Jordan Clarkson type of player

I think because of his positive A/TO rate and good rebounding, and good FT rate, he'll be at least a starter throughout his career.

Also RJ's FT% went from 61.4% to 74.6% to 71.3%

He's obviously improved since year 1, it's just that now he's getting to the line at a higher rate. And I wouldn't be surprised if he has a FT% of like 77% sometime in the future since he had a near 75% in season 2.

Overall RJ's efficiency went from terrible to not bad (that 40% 3P season helped) to bad. His shooting percentages are kind of all over the place, so it's kind of hard to predict where he's going to end up in season 4.

[Madhouse]

so far I'm not seeing much that indicates future all star impact but he is still young.