2022 HoF Announcement: Manu, Hardaway and George Karl

CIN-C-STAR · Post #1 » by **CIN-C-STAR** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 4:16 am

I believe this is the first year Manu was eligible too, so looks like he will be a first-ballot HoFer (deservedly so, imo, because it is the basketball Hall of Fame and NOT the NBA HoF).
Hardaway is kind of borderline imo. 5X All Star, 5X All NBA, one season in top-5 MVP voting (#4).
I think he was more iconic than good, not to say he wasn't good but his game during that stretch of All Star play was just really fun to watch even if not the most efficient. Pretty long career too, 15K points and 7K assists (y'all still don't think Derozan will make it btw??)
George Karl is a no brainer imo. Innovative coach and #6 all time in wins. Enough said, despite only one finals appearance.

Anyway it's not official yet but here's the story including the non-NBA people selected:
https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/33642409/report-swin-cash-manu-ginobili-tim-hardaway-2022-basketball-hall-fame-inductees

Quattro · Post #2 » by **Quattro** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 4:20 am

Like all three selections. Well deserved.

maradro · Post #3 » by **maradro** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 4:43 am

So this unsurprisingly was confirmed by shams, not really newsworthy..

but Ill take the excuse to post the highlight vid

Read on Twitter

tmorgan · Post #4 » by **tmorgan** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 4:45 am

Hardaway is a reminder that the Basketball HoF is definitely a “big hall” approach.

Not that Penny wasn’t great for a while, and not that he wasn’t an icon for a while, too. But these doors are pretty clearly wide open.

AussieRules · Post #5 » by **AussieRules** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 4:52 am

Weak class in my humble opinion

Hellcrooner · Post #6 » by **Hellcrooner** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 5:04 am

tmorgan wrote:Hardaway is a reminder that the Basketball HoF is definitely a “big hall” approach.

Not that Penny wasn’t great for a while, and not that he wasn’t an icon for a while, too. But these doors are pretty clearly wide open.

is not Penny

Is Tim.

cant believe in these times they have forgiven his Homophobic speech.

Ryoga Hibiki · Post #7 » by **Ryoga Hibiki** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 5:14 am

Watch on YouTube

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Ryoga Hibiki · Post #8 » by **Ryoga Hibiki** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 5:18 am

Watch on YouTube

this is the guy the Spurs drafted, not his more polished version coached by Messina in Bologna

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tmorgan · Post #9 » by **tmorgan** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 5:19 am

That… makes more sense, I guess. Still kinda sketchy.

Ursusamericanus · Post #10 » by **Ursusamericanus** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 5:28 am

Thoroughly well-deserved.

Finchination33 · Post #11 » by **Finchination33** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 5:36 am

My favourite non-Celtic player ever. Beyond thrilled for him, a true team player. Also, just love a guy who attempts crazy passes on a regular basis.

GSP · Post #12 » by **GSP** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 5:41 am

I never thought theyd look past that Tim rant but hes gone a long way to improve his understanding and maturity there so Im glad hes getting in

MrBigShot · Post #13 » by **MrBigShot** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 6:35 am

Hellcrooner wrote:
tmorgan wrote:Hardaway is a reminder that the Basketball HoF is definitely a “big hall” approach.

Not that Penny wasn’t great for a while, and not that he wasn’t an icon for a while, too. But these doors are pretty clearly wide open.

is not Penny

Is Tim.

cant believe in these times they have forgiven his Homophobic speech.

To his credit he did acknowledge he was wrong for saying that and took steps to educate himself and make things right, people make mistakes sometimes.

theforumblue · Post #14 » by **theforumblue** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 6:44 am

im surprised that Tim got in. I'm glad he did though. I loved his play. His UTEP 2step is one of the most devastating crossovers ever. I spent so much time trying to get that move down. It sounds like he put in the work to make things right with the gay community.

Saint Lazarus · Post #15 » by **Saint Lazarus** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 6:51 am

Shoutout Tim Hardaway though. Him and Mike Vick unironically. People make mistakes and should be punished for it. But they should also be forgiven when they apologize and take steps to change their behaviour or viewpoint.

Slurpin · Post #16 » by **Slurpin** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 7:32 am

Tim Hardaway is not a HOFer. No way no how.

miamiheat319 · Post #17 » by **miamiheat319** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 7:56 am

As a biased Heat fan glad Tim finally made it. Manu and Karl were no brainers

mowcrowbar · Post #18 » by **mowcrowbar** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 8:01 am

I thought it was Penny Hardaway. I thought Tim was barred from all HoF talks after his anti-gay tirade?

Post #19 » by **Mavrelous** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 8:03 am

Hellcrooner wrote:
tmorgan wrote:Hardaway is a reminder that the Basketball HoF is definitely a “big hall” approach.

Not that Penny wasn’t great for a while, and not that he wasn’t an icon for a while, too. But these doors are pretty clearly wide open.

is not Penny

Is Tim.

cant believe in these times they have forgiven his Homophobic speech.

I'd hate it if players' social opinions are considered for his HoF status, it the HoF of basketball, not progressive left, I'd bet a good money, that most of those in the HoF that grew before the 90s held similar views to him, 2 of the ATG, Hakeem and Stockton, are religious consertaives (Muslim and Catholic), and they don't share the progressive left opinions.
Keep it for basketball and leave this crap out.
With that being said Tim Hardaway making it is a bit of stretch.

ElectricMayhem · Post #20 » by **ElectricMayhem** » Fri Apr 1, 2022 8:22 am

Hellcrooner wrote:
tmorgan wrote:Hardaway is a reminder that the Basketball HoF is definitely a “big hall” approach.

Not that Penny wasn’t great for a while, and not that he wasn’t an icon for a while, too. But these doors are pretty clearly wide open.

is not Penny

Is Tim.

cant believe in these times they have forgiven his Homophobic speech.

He had a bad opinion. He was raised in a time when most Americans had a similar opinion. We’re all to some extent a product of our surroundings. I’m as liberal as they come but I don’t see the value in permanently shunning someone for something they once thought.