ESPN Top 25 under 25

SUPERVILLAIN · Post #1 » by **SUPERVILLAIN** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:07 pm

Based on future potential.

1. Luka Doncic
2. Jayson Tatum
3. Ja Morant
4. Trae Young
5. LaMelo Ball
6. Cade Cunningham
7. Zion Williamson
8. Bam Adebayo
9. Darius Garland
10. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
11. Anthony Edwards
12. Brandon Ingram
13. Scottie Barnes
14. Tyrese Haliburton
15. Evan Mobley
16. Miles Bridges
17. Desmond Bane
18. Jarrett Allen
19. Deandre Ayton
20. Tyler Herro
21. Jalen Green
22. De'Aaron Fox
23. John Collins
24. Tyrese Maxey
25. Jaren Jackson Jr.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/33687272/nba-25-25-ranking-anthony-edwards-evan-mobley-top-young-stars-based-future-potential

The Moose · Post #2 » by **The Moose** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:13 pm

Feels like JJJ, Mobley are too low, potentially Barnes is too low as well

GSWFan1994 · Post #3 » by **GSWFan1994** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:14 pm

First thing that jumps out is Desmond Bane being ahead of so many players.

But the very top of the list is good, it's passable.

KembaWalker · Post #4 » by **KembaWalker** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:16 pm

obviously its going to be a weird mix of established and potential when you go all the way up to 25.
but the article title says "based on future potential" and I think with that in mind you gotta have Mobley significantly higher yeah? just on cursory glance I'd swap Mobley with Bam at least, then put Bam where Ingram is and but Ingram down where Mobley is.

jasonxxx102 · Post #5 » by **jasonxxx102** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:18 pm

Ingram feels too high on this list, wouldn't even have Maxey on here but otherwise looks pretty uncontroversial

SUPERVILLAIN · Post #6 » by **SUPERVILLAIN** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:20 pm

If we're talking about potential, Mobley is ranked way too damn low. Inexcusable mistake.

Green being ranked behind Bridges and Bane is also ridiculous. This kid is still so young and he has proven that he can really score. Him and Edwards are the future of shooting guard.

And where's my boy, Jordan Poole!?

Dutchball97 · Post #7 » by **Dutchball97** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:20 pm

KembaWalker wrote:obviously its going to be a weird mix of established and potential when you go all the way up to 25.
but the article title says "based on future potential" and I think with that in mind you gotta have Mobley significantly higher yeah? just on cursory glance I'd swap Mobley with Bam at least, then put Bam where Ingram is and but Ingram down where Mobley is.

Yeah feel like they struggled to find a good middle ground between how good are they now and how good do they think they'll be.

Roger Murdock · Post #8 » by **Roger Murdock** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:39 pm

This list is basically a ‘how good are they right now’ list and it’s horrible

Desmond Bane is 3 years older than Jalen Green you are telling me he’s going to be a better player in one season than Green will in 4? He’s going to be worse than Herro! Lol

Mobley, Green, Barnes are underrated

Ingram, Haliburton, Bane, Allen, Herro, etc are too high

I won’t be surprised if someone like Mobley or Jalen Green is the best player in the NBA in 5 years

dhsilv2 · Post #9 » by **dhsilv2** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:44 pm

Potential growth or do we factor in how good they are now? And I mean...how Zion isn't top 3 is tough for me given his just crazy raw potential. he might not get there but he's got potential off the charts.

lars_rosenberg · Post #10 » by **lars_rosenberg** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:47 pm

SUPERVILLAIN wrote:And where's my boy, Jordan Poole!?

JP definitely belongs in the list, he's playing like a borderline all star.
He's already better than Wiggins, who was an all star this season...

Whopper_Sr · Post #11 » by **Whopper_Sr** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:47 pm

Trae and Garland are easily better than Morant.

Scalabrine · Post #12 » by **Scalabrine** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:53 pm

Not surprised to not see RJ Barrett on the list but under 25 seems a little high to me. A lot of these guys are already pretty established. We generally know what to expect of them moving forward. I'd rather see a Top 22 under 22 or something like that.

tdot_steel · Post #13 » by **tdot_steel** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:55 pm

Cade Cunningham @ 6 is :crazy:

He isn't even the best rookie.

Before SGA, Bam Adebayo, Darius Garland, Anthony Edwards
and Brandon Ingram......who made this list Stevie Wonder?

tdot_steel · Post #14 » by **tdot_steel** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:56 pm

Cade Cunningham @ 6 is :noway:

KembaWalker · Post #15 » by **KembaWalker** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:57 pm

Scalabrine wrote:Not surprised to not see RJ Barrett on the list but under 25 seems a little high too me. A lot of these guys are already pretty established. We generally know what to expect of them moving forward.

Yeah it's just odd to be ranking guys at 25 years old on future potential. The way guys are now..25 is like basically prime with 4-6 seasons of data behind them. Idk how you can compare that to a 19 year old rookie in any meaningful fashion.

meekrab · Post #16 » by **meekrab** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:57 pm

"Based on future potential" and there's like 6 all stars on the list?? Just how good do they think Tatum or Trae is gonna get?

Post #17 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:03 pm

meekrab wrote:"Based on future potential" and there's like 6 all stars on the list?? Just how good do they think Tatum or Trae is gonna get?

I mean there is a good chance Tatum ends up top 5 in MVP voting this year. I'd say that is a pretty high ceiling for a player.

Post #18 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:04 pm

2 guys in the top 10 and 3 in the top 15. I'll take it.

Post #19 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:09 pm

I don’t understand if it’s based on potential where they are now. The list is fine I guess. Doesn’t really mean anything.

Post #20 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:12 pm

meekrab wrote:"Based on future potential" and there's like 6 all stars on the list?? Just how good do they think Tatum or Trae is gonna get?

I don't think they mean potential as in unrealized as much as they mean a projection of their impact moving forward. Or at least that's how I interpreted it.

So guys like Tatum and Trae who have established such high level of play today and who have potentially a decade remaining as high level players should be high on the list.

What you think of the list