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10 seasons without LeBron. 0 Playoff appearances. Can we please stop talking about him like he was a superstar or a Hall of Fame player. He was never on that level. He was only propped up because he was a teammate of LeBron. If he was never traded to the Cavs, he would be discussed as the modern day Mitch Richmond.

Of course I have to mention how none of LeBron's "super teammates" have done **** without LeBron outside of Wade. They have all struggled to establish themselves as the #1 option.

Love: 10 seasons, 0 playoff appearances, 0 playoff series wins
Kyrie: 8 seasons, 3 playoff appearance, 2 playoff series win
AD: 7 seasons, 2 playoff appearances, 1 playoff series win
Bosh: 9 seasons, 2 playoff appearances, 0 playoff series wins
Combined: 34 seasons, 7 playoff appearances, 3 playoff series wins

Rudy Gobert has the same number of playoff wins as those "super teammates" have combined.

This is so random and kind of makes you sound like an insecure Bronsexual.

Yea Kevin Love wasn't that great, he is also a bench player now so relax.

Remind me again what kind of teams Love played on without LeBron? This was the first legitimately good team he was on without him and they managed to win 44 with an injury ragged season, only missing the playoffs due to the new format.

Okay so? Not everything revolves around LeBron in this league. There’s so much that goes into whether a *team* makes the playoffs, but you already knew that.

TheLand13 wrote:Remind me again what kind of teams Love played on without LeBron? This was the first legitimately good team he was on without him and they managed to win 44 with an injury ragged season, only missing the playoffs due to the new format.

I kind of see both points.

11-14, he was pretty sick offensively, though. He obviously took a hit going to Cleveland and playing with Lebron and Kyrie, of course. He was no defensive dynamo, and outside of 2014, he wasn't a HUGE monster offensively, but he was also young still and coming into his game. Would have been interesting to see what he might have accomplished had he a more solid team built around him as a feature, rather than slotting into the Miami Bosh role.

I would say that the Wolves badly notching every draft after Love was drafted has a lot more to do with it.

Kevin Love was a great player before Lebron and a great player with Lebron, why the random hate? Not making the playoffs just means he was stuck on bad teams.

Is Lebron less of a player now that he has missed the playoffs twice without Kevin Love?

“Can we please stop talking about him like he’s….”

Nah bro, no one is talking about him full stop.

Give Keevin Love another Kevin Love level wing player and Kyrie, who'd be a first option there, and ets see what they do.

Give Bosh a Boshlevel wing and Wade...

Give AD a bubble AD

But he's been on a top 8 team in his conference.

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HypeMode wrote:10 seasons without LeBron. 0 Playoff appearances. Can we please stop talking about him like he was a superstar or a Hall of Fame player. He was never on that level. He was only propped up because he was a teammate of LeBron. If he was never traded to the Cavs, he would be discussed as the modern day Mitch Richmond.

Of course I have to mention how none of LeBron's "super teammates" have done **** without LeBron outside of Wade. They have all struggled to establish themselves as the #1 option.

Love: 10 seasons, 0 playoff appearances, 0 playoff series wins
Kyrie: 8 seasons, 3 playoff appearance, 2 playoff series win
AD: 7 seasons, 2 playoff appearances, 1 playoff series win
Bosh: 9 seasons, 2 playoff appearances, 0 playoff series wins
Combined: 34 seasons, 7 playoff appearances, 3 playoff series wins

Rudy Gobert has the same number of playoff wins as those "super teammates" have combined.

The irony of this post is that you say he's not a Hall of Fame player but then compare him to Mitch Richmond...who is a Hall of Fame player.

Love+fillers for WB does work on the trade checker.

Scalabrine wrote:The irony of this post is that you say he's not a Hall of Fame player but then compare him to Mitch Richmond...who is a Hall of Fame player.

Heheh. I think we all know what he meant, but nice catch xD

13-14 Wolves = 40-42
18-19 Lakers = 37- 45 (No playoffs)
20-21 Lakers = 1st Round exit
21-22 Lakers = 33-49

Which one of these teams was the best?

Has Lebron won a playoff game out West without Davis?

Has Lebron made the playoffs out West without Davis?

kevin, sorry for the roster the wolves assembled. though i had no part in the construction of the roster i probably defended some of the moves.

kenwood3333 wrote:Love+fillers for WB does work on the trade checker.

Westbrook AND? Westbrook AND??? No reason for Cavs to even CONSIDER Love for Westbrook, without being compensated.

Cavs got screwed by injuries and stupid play in


Minny love teams had so many injuries they definitely could have made playoffs multiple times with some luck


Loves had a great season let’s not me like this

TheLand13 wrote:Remind me again what kind of teams Love played on without LeBron? This was the first legitimately good team he was on without him and they managed to win 44 with an injury ragged season, only missing the playoffs due to the new format.

Coincidentally that came in a season where he played a career low mpg lol

it must suck to have to try so hard to fight this one when you can't win. those guys are absolutely super teammates.

Back when he was in Minnesota, on this board I called him the definition of empty stats on a bad team.

I got flamed constantly.