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Inigo Montoya wrote:Gobert is not 1b. He's not capable of scoring on his own other than putbacks and offensive rebounds. You can build a defense around him but you better have really good scorers because if he's 1b then your team will have problems scoring. Mutombo wasn't 1b, Tyson Chandler wasn't 1b, Ben Wallace wasn't 1b, and Gobert isn't 1b.

Inigo Montoya wrote:Gobert is not 1b. He's not capable of scoring on his own other than putbacks and offensive rebounds. You can build a defense around him but you better have really good scorers because if he's 1b then your team will have problems scoring. Mutombo wasn't 1b, Tyson Chandler wasn't 1b, Ben Wallace wasn't 1b, and Gobert isn't 1b.

70sFan wrote:

Inigo Montoya wrote:Gobert is not 1b. He's not capable of scoring on his own other than putbacks and offensive rebounds. You can build a defense around him but you better have really good scorers because if he's 1b then your team will have problems scoring. Mutombo wasn't 1b, Tyson Chandler wasn't 1b, Ben Wallace wasn't 1b, and Gobert isn't 1b.

Gobert can be the best player on the team, while being 4th best scorer at the same time. He was the best player on Utah team, despite playing next to Mitchell, Conley and Bogdanovic.

Inigo Montoya wrote:

70sFan wrote:

Inigo Montoya wrote:Gobert is not 1b. He's not capable of scoring on his own other than putbacks and offensive rebounds. You can build a defense around him but you better have really good scorers because if he's 1b then your team will have problems scoring. Mutombo wasn't 1b, Tyson Chandler wasn't 1b, Ben Wallace wasn't 1b, and Gobert isn't 1b.

Gobert can be the best player on the team, while being 4th best scorer at the same time. He was the best player on Utah team, despite playing next to Mitchell, Conley and Bogdanovic.

Of course he can be the best player on his team, but then the team won't be better than what the Jazz have shown. And there is the issue of cost--while he's a very good player, if you're paying a supermax to a player that can't create his own shot and is about to turn 30 in two months, being unable to create his own shot will limit his team's upside significantly.

70sFan wrote:

Inigo Montoya wrote:

70sFan wrote:Gobert can be the best player on the team, while being 4th best scorer at the same time. He was the best player on Utah team, despite playing next to Mitchell, Conley and Bogdanovic.

Of course he can be the best player on his team, but then the team won't be better than what the Jazz have shown. And there is the issue of cost--while he's a very good player, if you're paying a supermax to a player that can't create his own shot and is about to turn 30 in two months, being unable to create his own shot will limit his team's upside significantly.

Seriously? I can imagine a lot of roster constructions with Gobert being the best player that are significantly better than this Jazz team. Just swap Clarkson for someone who can be their point of attack defender and they'd be significantly better.

Inigo Montoya wrote:

70sFan wrote:

Inigo Montoya wrote:
Of course he can be the best player on his team, but then the team won't be better than what the Jazz have shown. And there is the issue of cost--while he's a very good player, if you're paying a supermax to a player that can't create his own shot and is about to turn 30 in two months, being unable to create his own shot will limit his team's upside significantly.

Seriously? I can imagine a lot of roster constructions with Gobert being the best player that are significantly better than this Jazz team. Just swap Clarkson for someone who can be their point of attack defender and they'd be significantly better.

Alas, Clarkson is the only player on the team other than Mitchell who can create his own shot. We definitely need better perimeter defenders but probably not instead of Clarkson, unless we can generate offense from another player. As a Jazz fan, I can attest the fanbase struggled with this for a long time, but it is very hard to build a better team given Gobert's massive contract.

70sFan wrote:

Inigo Montoya wrote:

70sFan wrote:Seriously? I can imagine a lot of roster constructions with Gobert being the best player that are significantly better than this Jazz team. Just swap Clarkson for someone who can be their point of attack defender and they'd be significantly better.

Alas, Clarkson is the only player on the team other than Mitchell who can create his own shot. We definitely need better perimeter defenders but probably not instead of Clarkson, unless we can generate offense from another player. As a Jazz fan, I can attest the fanbase struggled with this for a long time, but it is very hard to build a better team given Gobert's massive contract.

Bogdanovic can also create his shot and he's not as bad as Clarkson on defense (though still not good).

You don't think there are players with bigger contracts than Gobert who are worse than Rudy?

Inigo Montoya wrote:

70sFan wrote:

Inigo Montoya wrote:Gobert is not 1b. He's not capable of scoring on his own other than putbacks and offensive rebounds. You can build a defense around him but you better have really good scorers because if he's 1b then your team will have problems scoring. Mutombo wasn't 1b, Tyson Chandler wasn't 1b, Ben Wallace wasn't 1b, and Gobert isn't 1b.

Gobert can be the best player on the team, while being 4th best scorer at the same time. He was the best player on Utah team, despite playing next to Mitchell, Conley and Bogdanovic.

Of course he can be the best player on his team, but then the team won't be better than what the Jazz have shown. And there is the issue of cost--while he's a very good player, if you're paying a supermax to a player that can't create his own shot and is about to turn 30 in two months, being unable to create his own shot will limit his team's upside significantly.