Assuming the Warriors didn't draft Wiseman, who should they have drafted?

Los_29 · Post #41 » by **Los_29** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:24 am

The411 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:I’m surprised people in the Warriors organization haven’t lost their jobs for what they’ve done the past two drafts.

Absolutely inexcusable lol.

Is the green font missing?

You think drafting Wiseman over Lamelo Ball was a good move?

DonaldSanders · Post #42 » by **DonaldSanders** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:28 am

Los_29 wrote:
The411 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:I’m surprised people in the Warriors organization haven’t lost their jobs for what they’ve done the past two drafts.

Absolutely inexcusable lol.

Is the green font missing?

You think drafting Wiseman over Lamelo Ball was a good move?

No, you're just ignoring the replies that explain why firing Bob Myers for 1 bad move is absolutely ridiculous.

Warriorfan · Post #43 » by **Warriorfan** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:28 am

dhsilv2 wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:I would start Ant over Klay and Poole

Poole's not a starter, and there's no chance Klay wouldn't start.

I'd 100% start ant over klay...but I don't think even at his best Klay was ever THAT good.

Klay is a guaranteed system fit. Ant is unknown. Wiggins who was considered a disappointment was a 24pts a game scorer for Min.

jfs1000d · Post #44 » by **jfs1000d** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:30 am

Wiseman been hurt. Would t say he isnt good .

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jfs1000d · Post #45 » by **jfs1000d** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:34 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:Let's put aside the bust (so far) pick of Wiseman.

If you're the Warriors, who would you pick for the CURRENT team, to best position you for a ring this year.

LaMelo? Bane?

Bane? Give me a break. Maybe LaMelo. But Bane is ridiculus. No one knew he was going to be that type of player. It is too early too.

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Los_29 · Post #46 » by **Los_29** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:35 am

DonaldSanders wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
The411 wrote:
Is the green font missing?

You think drafting Wiseman over Lamelo Ball was a good move?

No, you're just ignoring the replies that explain why firing Bob Myers for 1 bad move is absolutely ridiculous.

Who said I thought Myers should be fired?

I said people in the Warriors organization. Somebody has to face the consequences.

DonaldSanders · Post #47 » by **DonaldSanders** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:36 am

Los_29 wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
You think drafting Wiseman over Lamelo Ball was a good move?

No, you're just ignoring the replies that explain why firing Bob Myers for 1 bad move is absolutely ridiculous.

Who said I thought Myers should be fired?

I said people in the Warriors organization. Somebody has to face the consequences.

OK Cupcake :lol:

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #48 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:38 am

Red Van Vleet probably.

Cubbies2120 · Post #49 » by **Cubbies2120** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:39 am

jfs1000d wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:Let's put aside the bust (so far) pick of Wiseman.

If you're the Warriors, who would you pick for the CURRENT team, to best position you for a ring this year.

LaMelo? Bane?

Bane? Give me a break. Maybe LaMelo. But Bane is ridiculus. No one knew he was going to be that type of player. It is too early too.

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I phrased this thread poorly.

The premise of the thread is supposed to be: "If you're the Warriors and you can replace Wiseman with one player RIGHT NOW to give you the best opportunity to win it all..." - who would be the best fit to toss into that lineup?

dhsilv2 · Post #50 » by **dhsilv2** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:42 am

Warriorfan wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
Poole's not a starter, and there's no chance Klay wouldn't start.

I'd 100% start ant over klay...but I don't think even at his best Klay was ever THAT good.

Klay is a guaranteed system fit. Ant is unknown. Wiggins who was considered a disappointment was a 24pts a game scorer for Min.

I get that and obviously, ANT would have to prove it on the warriors. But lets not compare him to WIggins!

SinceGatlingWasARookie · Post #51 » by **SinceGatlingWasARookie** » Wed May 18, 2022 1:13 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:Let's put aside the bust (so far) pick of Wiseman.

If you're the Warriors, who would you pick for the CURRENT team, to best position you for a ring this year.

LaMelo? Bane?

Bane? Give me a break. Maybe LaMelo. But Bane is ridiculus. No one knew he was going to be that type of player. It is too early too.

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I phrased this thread poorly.

The premise of the thread is supposed to be: "If you're the Warriors and you can replace Wiseman with one player RIGHT NOW to give you the best opportunity to win it all..." - who would be the best fit to toss into that lineup?

Ant was drafted ahead of Wiseman so he does not count. Lamelo is an upgrade over Damian Lee but Lee barely plays.

I don’t think anybody drafted after Wiseman changes the championship odds much by being on the Warriors instead of Wiseman. The Warriors will win the championship this year anyway. That draft class is looking weak.

Warriorfan · Post #52 » by **Warriorfan** » Wed May 18, 2022 1:21 am

dhsilv2 wrote:
Warriorfan wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
I'd 100% start ant over klay...but I don't think even at his best Klay was ever THAT good.

Klay is a guaranteed system fit. Ant is unknown. Wiggins who was considered a disappointment was a 24pts a game scorer for Min.

I get that and obviously, ANT would have to prove it on the warriors. But lets not compare him to WIggins!

You can compare them now. Wiggins though expensive is a known all star two way player in GS
Still young enough to improve on a GS in contention this year which can get better next year.

Schmooftie · Post #53 » by **Schmooftie** » Wed May 18, 2022 1:34 am

Regardless if he turns it around or not - Wiseman was still the right pick.
He's been injured a lot and the type of player he projects to be is exactly the type of big man the Warriors need
Lamelo was handed the keys from day 1 in Charlotte - he would not have had the same opportunities in Golden State, and Poole would also not have evolved as he has due to the log jam in the back court.

Warriorfan · Post #54 » by **Warriorfan** » Wed May 18, 2022 1:35 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:Let's put aside the bust (so far) pick of Wiseman.

If you're the Warriors, who would you pick for the CURRENT team, to best position you for a ring this year.

LaMelo? Bane?

Bane? Give me a break. Maybe LaMelo. But Bane is ridiculus. No one knew he was going to be that type of player. It is too early too.

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I phrased this thread poorly.

The premise of the thread is supposed to be: "If you're the Warriors and you can replace Wiseman with one player RIGHT NOW to give you the best opportunity to win it all..." - who would be the best fit to toss into that lineup?

The thing is what GS needs is a rim running rim protector with size. Sounds like Wiseman.

Toppin fills in spots except the most important thing size.

dhsilv2 · Post #55 » by **dhsilv2** » Wed May 18, 2022 1:41 am

Warriorfan wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
Warriorfan wrote:
Klay is a guaranteed system fit. Ant is unknown. Wiggins who was considered a disappointment was a 24pts a game scorer for Min.

I get that and obviously, ANT would have to prove it on the warriors. But lets not compare him to WIggins!

You can compare them now. Wiggins though expensive is a known all star two way player in GS
Still young enough to improve on a GS in contention this year which can get better next year.

I don't think anyone actually considers wiggins an allstar! He's a nice athlete who with good coaching and a LOT of help can be a useful player! ANT has real star talent.

Mob Byers · Post #56 » by **Mob Byers** » Wed May 18, 2022 1:44 am

Haliburton

WCJ + 4 (Haliburton)

Probably could’ve traded down more and gotten more assets too

DroseReturnChi · Post #57 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Wed May 18, 2022 1:53 am

Schmooftie wrote:Regardless if he turns it around or not - Wiseman was still the right pick.
He's been injured a lot and the type of player he projects to be is exactly the type of big man the Warriors need
Lamelo was handed the keys from day 1 in Charlotte - he would not have had the same opportunities in Golden State, and Poole would also not have evolved as he has due to the log jam in the back court.

poole would have been good just not to this yr. you would have saved money on pooles contract and lamelo looking like perennial all nba would have made them title favorites. klay /wiggins dont even belong to the core hell poole and ball should have just replaced those overpaid.

Commodor · Post #58 » by **Commodor** » Wed May 18, 2022 2:48 am

Yeah problem here is Hali, Bane & Maxey were way too far down the ladder to justify at #2. It was the weird COVID year so there was absolute minimal film to study, no NCAA season & no in person workouts. Reports indicated GSW tried to trade drown & were prepared to take Ant if he fell. Otherwise it was Wiseman.

Ball is fluff. Way to overrated. Flashy playmaker but just as negative on defense. Would clog up Poole’s development. No regrets skipping there.

Coxy · Post #59 » by **Coxy** » Wed May 18, 2022 2:50 am

Haliburton 100% no question.

The411 · Post #60 » by **The411** » Wed May 18, 2022 2:53 am

Los_29 wrote:
The411 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:I’m surprised people in the Warriors organization haven’t lost their jobs for what they’ve done the past two drafts.

Absolutely inexcusable lol.

Is the green font missing?

You think drafting Wiseman over Lamelo Ball was a good move?

Yes. While Wiseman had flags they were not medical like Oden. The biggest issue with Wiseman now is long term health.

The issue I see with LaMelo is an issue of fit. The Warriors despite their flashy appearance have always been about defence.

People need to be more patient. He's played 39 NBA games at age 19. The Warriors with a legitiamte front scorer and vertical threat is much much more dangeous.

I get that Lamelo is a much better an impactful player, but if Wiseman can stay health I think this end up a mcuh closer comparison.