Miami Heat best G-Leaguer Destination?
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Hassan Whiteside
Tyler Johnson
McGruder
Duncan Robinson
Kendrick Nunn
And now freaking
Gabe Vincent out of UC Santa Barbara AND Mas Struss out of Lewis IL and DePaul? No they are not All-stars by any means.
And forget resurrecting the careers of James Johnson, Waiters, Goran Dragic etc.
suffice it to say, there are players who failed to developed too, maybe lack of willingness to train and learn etc.
But is there a better team that finds these undrafted players?
Tyler Johnson
McGruder
Duncan Robinson
Kendrick Nunn
And now freaking
Gabe Vincent out of UC Santa Barbara AND Mas Struss out of Lewis IL and DePaul? No they are not All-stars by any means.
And forget resurrecting the careers of James Johnson, Waiters, Goran Dragic etc.
suffice it to say, there are players who failed to developed too, maybe lack of willingness to train and learn etc.
But is there a better team that finds these undrafted players?
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Pat Riley has been doing this forever. Anthony Mason and John Starks were nobodies until they got in his program. Ike Austin another one that comes to mind. Tim Hardaway was an incredible reclamation project coming off of injury and had a brilliant second act in Miami. The way that they’ve been able to build back up after the Lebron era without ever really fully bottoming out is kinda remarkable
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Nunn (and Dedmon as well) was initially a Warriors G-Leaguer. They simply didn't have the room/time for him on the big team and he went elsewhere for more playing time.
But it is pretty unreal. They started 2 undrafted players and played another 2 undrafted guys off the bench in a Conference Final. Also doesn't include Duncan Robinson, who was also undrafted (and got a fat contract) but is kind of unplayable in the playoffs these days. They also have Yurtseven, who could possibly be a rotation player in the future. Plus whatever else they find off the heap this summer, lol.
These guys are basically the anti-Orlando Magic, who have a team full of Top 10 draft picks but lose, LOL.
But it is pretty unreal. They started 2 undrafted players and played another 2 undrafted guys off the bench in a Conference Final. Also doesn't include Duncan Robinson, who was also undrafted (and got a fat contract) but is kind of unplayable in the playoffs these days. They also have Yurtseven, who could possibly be a rotation player in the future. Plus whatever else they find off the heap this summer, lol.
These guys are basically the anti-Orlando Magic, who have a team full of Top 10 draft picks but lose, LOL.
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Would be interesting to see for each team, which GLeaguers have passed through their system and had success
Warriors had Joe Ingles, Chris Boucher, Seth Curry, Jeremy Lin, Dewayne Dedmon, Justin Holiday, Kendrick Nunn, Damion Lee, Gary Payton II, King Tolly Anthony Tolliver, CJ Watson.. though some of those guys might be summer leaguers, not necessarily G-leaguers
That said Miami plucked Strus and Yurtseven off the heap and those guys are really solid IMO. They definitely have an eye for it.. Lakers did well this year too. An all summer/G-league team starting lineup for all 30 teams could be a fun exercise to see who's found the best talents over the life of the GL
Warriors had Joe Ingles, Chris Boucher, Seth Curry, Jeremy Lin, Dewayne Dedmon, Justin Holiday, Kendrick Nunn, Damion Lee, Gary Payton II, King Tolly Anthony Tolliver, CJ Watson.. though some of those guys might be summer leaguers, not necessarily G-leaguers
That said Miami plucked Strus and Yurtseven off the heap and those guys are really solid IMO. They definitely have an eye for it.. Lakers did well this year too. An all summer/G-league team starting lineup for all 30 teams could be a fun exercise to see who's found the best talents over the life of the GL
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When it comes to developing players, no team does it better than the Raptors.
Followed by the Spurs, Heat, and Warriors (in no particular order).
Followed by the Spurs, Heat, and Warriors (in no particular order).
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FNQ wrote:Would be interesting to see for each team, which GLeaguers have passed through their system and had success
Warriors had Joe Ingles, Chris Boucher, Seth Curry, Jeremy Lin, Dewayne Dedmon, Justin Holiday, Kendrick Nunn, Damion Lee, Gary Payton II, King Tolly Anthony Tolliver, CJ Watson.. though some of those guys might be summer leaguers, not necessarily G-leaguers
That said Miami plucked Strus and Yurtseven off the heap and those guys are really solid IMO. They definitely have an eye for it.. Lakers did well this year too. An all summer/G-league team starting lineup for all 30 teams could be a fun exercise to see who's found the best talents over the life of the GL
It's one thing to find these Diamonds in the rough but it's another challenge to actually hire the best trainers and coaches and work with them. Yes, Warriors had these guys like Seth, Lin, Nunn etc but they didn't exactly fully developed there.
These sorry teams like Sacramento, Orlando etc, I just wonder if their Front Office have that commitment to hire these trainers or heck even spend the money to actually recruit them from Miami.... Heck Toronto lured Masai to join them.
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Raptors:
Siakam (27th pick) - All-Star/All-NBA
VanVleet (Undrafted) - All-Star
Boucher (Undrafted) - Rotation player
Raptors, Heat, and Spurs have the best player development in the league.
Siakam (27th pick) - All-Star/All-NBA
VanVleet (Undrafted) - All-Star
Boucher (Undrafted) - Rotation player
Raptors, Heat, and Spurs have the best player development in the league.
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LoveMyRaps wrote:When it comes to developing players, no team does it better than the Raptors.
Followed by the Spurs, Heat, and Warriors (in no particular order).
Spurs have done great, but would you care to elaborate about the un-drafted players that the Raptors developed aside form FVV?
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Miami is the gold standard no doubt. Riley is a master.
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LoveMyRaps wrote:When it comes to developing players, no team does it better than the Raptors.
Followed by the Spurs, Heat, and Warriors (in no particular order).
I was going to post that the raps are definitely up there with us and the Spurs. Forgot about the warriors too
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The big thing Miami has going for it is they take player development seriously. It doesn't always payoff. They were never able to turn Beasley around for instance but it is pretty clear they really do look at younger players and ask:
1. Who could this player become?
2. What do we need to do to help them get there?
A lot of franchises just seem to operate w/o any plan for it.
1. Who could this player become?
2. What do we need to do to help them get there?
A lot of franchises just seem to operate w/o any plan for it.
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JulesWinnfield wrote:Pat Riley has been doing this forever. Anthony Mason and John Starks were nobodies until they got in his program. Ike Austin another one that comes to mind. Tim Hardaway was an incredible reclamation project coming off of injury and had a brilliant second act in Miami. The way that they’ve been able to build back up after the Lebron era without ever really fully bottoming out is kinda remarkable
to add a lot of people don't realize it but they did a good job helping Bowen become a useful player.
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Miami putting on a clinic on how to find and develop talent.
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This is the main reason why I said Lebron made a huge mistake leaving Miami. All he had to do was give Riley a little time, and they'd have fielded a new championship team around Lebron. He would have won more than 2 rings since 2013.
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tamaraw08 wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:When it comes to developing players, no team does it better than the Raptors.
Followed by the Spurs, Heat, and Warriors (in no particular order).
Spurs have done great, but would you care to elaborate about the un-drafted players that the Raptors developed aside form FVV?
It's not just about undrafted players.
Look at the development curve for the following guys:
Siakam, OG, Fred (UD), Powell, TD (UD), Boucher (UD), Achiuwa
Those are just the most recent examples off the top of my head. Not a single lottery pick. Siakam was the 27th overall pick and was very much a reach at the time.
A lot of players, media and league personnel always speak highly about the Raptors development staff.
We have to rely heavily on our development because it's tough getting American free agents to sign with us.
Our 2nd round selection and undrafted signee from this past season (Banton and Champagnie) tore up the G-League and led the 905 to the best regular season record and the G-League conference finals.
Gary Payton II also played for the Raptors 905 last before landing a full time job with the Warriors.
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tamaraw08 wrote:Hassan Whiteside
Tyler Johnson
McGruder
Duncan Robinson
Kendrick Nunn
And now freaking
Gabe Vincent out of UC Santa Barbara AND Mas Struss out of Lewis IL and DePaul? No they are not All-stars by any means.
And forget resurrecting the careers of James Johnson, Waiters, Goran Dragic etc.
suffice it to say, there are players who failed to developed too, maybe lack of willingness to train and learn etc.
But is there a better team that finds these undrafted players?
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Briefly sorta mentioned this before, but it's pretty wild when you think about this:
The Orlando Magic have 7 (and about to be 8 after draft day) players on the roster who were Top 10 picks. Assuming none of those guys are moved for non-Top 10 picks, the majority of their 15 man roster will be Top 10 draft picks. They just finished in the lottery (and won it, so congratulations) .
The Miami Heat 15 man roster only has ONE player who was a Top 10 pick: Victor Oladipo, a player who was drafted by........Orlando, LOL. They're in the conference Finals.
Crazy contrast between 2 teams in the same state.
The Orlando Magic have 7 (and about to be 8 after draft day) players on the roster who were Top 10 picks. Assuming none of those guys are moved for non-Top 10 picks, the majority of their 15 man roster will be Top 10 draft picks. They just finished in the lottery (and won it, so congratulations) .
The Miami Heat 15 man roster only has ONE player who was a Top 10 pick: Victor Oladipo, a player who was drafted by........Orlando, LOL. They're in the conference Finals.
Crazy contrast between 2 teams in the same state.
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LoveMyRaps wrote:tamaraw08 wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:When it comes to developing players, no team does it better than the Raptors.
Followed by the Spurs, Heat, and Warriors (in no particular order).
Spurs have done great, but would you care to elaborate about the un-drafted players that the Raptors developed aside form FVV?
It's not just about undrafted players.
Look at the development curve for the following guys:
Siakam, OG, Fred (UD), Powell, TD (UD), Boucher (UD), Achiuwa
Those are just the most recent examples off the top of my head. Not a single lottery pick. Siakam was the 27th overall pick and was very much a reach at the time.
A lot of players, media and league personnel always speak highly about the Raptors development staff.
We have to rely heavily on our development because it's tough getting American free agents to sign with us.
Our 2nd round selection and undrafted signee from this past season (Banton and Champagnie) tore up the G-League and led the 905 to the best regular season record and the G-League conference finals.
Gary Payton II also played for the Raptors 905 last before landing a full time job with the Warriors.
Also Oshae Brissett spent a bunch of time in the 905 and Raps development system as an undrafted player and then moved on to Indiana where he started getting playing time.
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Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:This is the main reason why I said Lebron made a huge mistake leaving Miami. All he had to do was give Riley a little time, and they'd have fielded a new championship team around Lebron. He would have won more than 2 rings since 2013.
That is one major reason why LeBron left - he and his team had no control or power on organizationl decisions.
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When did Miami “resurrect” the career of Goran Dragic?