Lets not overlook the fact... Jayson Tatum exposed

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Lets not overlook the fact... Jayson Tatum exposed 

Post#1 » by Optms » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:14 pm

13 points in a deciding game 6 in Boston. 2 points in the second half. And this is the guy Boston has declared as their franchise player? Larry Bird and Bill Russell rolling over in their graves.

I don't wanna see any Tatum "Top 10" Player lists anytime soon. He's fools gold.
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Post#2 » by ratul » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:22 pm

Screw off with this take.
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Post#3 » by Optms » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:24 pm

ratul wrote:Screw off with this take.


How about you tell me why he is a top 10 player instead getting salty this morning :lol: Or just ignore the post.
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Post#4 » by Promezclan » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:25 pm

1 game and 1 series definitely outweighs his previous 7 playoff series and 2 full regular seasons- that's just basic statistics!
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Post#5 » by MAQ » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:26 pm

Tatum's inconsistency is a problem. I thought he was the next face of the league with Luka. He **** up that projection with his showing.

He struggled so much when he got to the rim. Is he nursing an ankle injury?
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Post#6 » by Karate Diop » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:27 pm

Was he exposed though?

I've detailed the exact issue with his game, that gets compounded by the similar issues in Brown's game, for years... None of what happened was surprising.

The trajectory is still good, but the very real flaws need to be addressed. And if they can't be improved via player development then it's time to move on from Brown and his selfish ballhoggery so that you can maximize what you have in the superior Tatum.
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Post#7 » by Freighttrain » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:28 pm

He had a bad finals, but he's only 24 and he outplayed Durant and went toe to toe with Giannis, having that monster 46-point game. His accomplishments are what they are. He's a top 10 player, just not a top 5, which is still great.
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Post#8 » by SelfishPlayer » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:29 pm

Optms wrote:13 points in a deciding game 6 in Boston. 2 points in the second half. And this is the guy Boston has declared as their franchise player? Larry Bird and Bill Russell rolling over in their graves.

I don't wanna see any Tatum "Top 10" Player lists anytime soon. He's fools gold.


Bill Russell shot 44%FG over his entire career.
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Post#9 » by UcanUwill » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:30 pm

A month ago he shut down and beat Giannis. It took the greatest NBA team in recent memory to stop Tatum and Celtics. He is also 24 I believe, most all time greats with multiple championships didnt win their first ship until they were closing to 30.

Do people even know what exposed mean. I mean I am no expert of this language, but to me, exposed would mean that someone exposed so previously unknown weakness of something, lets say a player, that makes that player useless from now on with opponents having that knowledge. Tatum is far from eposed, he sucked, but he will come back stronger.
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Post#10 » by Profound23 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:31 pm

Only been in the league since 2017. I don't think Tatum got exposed, I just think he is still learning and wasn't ready to be in the Finals yet.

As I said with Luka, he was overrated during his playoff run but is now quickly being underrated. Both will be some of the top 5-10 players for the next decade or so.
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Post#11 » by Optms » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:33 pm

Karate Diop wrote:Was he exposed though?

I've detailed the exact issue with his game, that gets compounded by the similar issues in Brown's game, for years... None of what happened was surprising.

The trajectory is still good, but the very real flaws need to be addressed. And if they can't be improved via player development then it's time to move on from Brown and his selfish ballhoggery so that you can maximize what you have in the superior Tatum.


Maybe Jaylen wouldn't have to "ballhoggery" the ball if Boston's number 1 player wasn't so scared of the ball. What did Tatum do the entire second half aside from ball watch and stand around? He couldn't even score against Steph Curry. Embarrassing. :lol:
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Post#12 » by Profound23 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:37 pm

UcanUwill wrote:A month ago he shut down and beat Giannis. It took the greatest NBA team in recent memory to stop Tatum and Celtics. He is also 24 I believe, most all time greats with multiple championships didnt win their first ship until they were closing to 30.

Do people even know what exposed mean. I mean I am no expert of this language, but to me, exposed would mean that someone exposed so previously unknown weakness of something, lets say a player, that makes that player useless from now on with opponents having that knowledge. Tatum is far from eposed, he sucked, but he will come back stronger.



LOL....cmon man. I just gave Tatum his props, he will be back to this level if they keep that team together.

However, he did not shut down Giannis and his team beat Giannis's team. He barely guarded Giannis that was mostly Horford/Grant Williams...and even still Giannis put up:

24/13/12
28/9/7
42/12/8
34/16/18
40/11/3
44/20/6
25/20/9


If that is shutting down then Giannis is better than I thought. But Tatum was not exposed. I hate whenever a player loses a game or a series he is "exposed." What a joke! Tatum is a great player and ascending every year.
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Post#13 » by jerok » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:41 pm

Promezclan wrote:1 game and 1 series definitely outweighs his previous 7 playoff series and 2 full regular seasons- that's just basic statistics!


As an anointed superstar by fans and media. Top 5 player in the world (first team all NBA).
Expectations are big. If you come up spectacularly tiny in the finals you deserve the criticism. Just ask LeBron.
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Post#14 » by UcanUwill » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:42 pm

Profound23 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:A month ago he shut down and beat Giannis. It took the greatest NBA team in recent memory to stop Tatum and Celtics. He is also 24 I believe, most all time greats with multiple championships didnt win their first ship until they were closing to 30.

Do people even know what exposed mean. I mean I am no expert of this language, but to me, exposed would mean that someone exposed so previously unknown weakness of something, lets say a player, that makes that player useless from now on with opponents having that knowledge. Tatum is far from eposed, he sucked, but he will come back stronger.



LOL....cmon man. I just gave Tatum his props, he will be back to this level if they keep that team together.

However, he did not shut down Giannis and his team beat Giannis's team. He barely guarded Giannis that was mostly Horford/Grant Williams...and even still Giannis put up:

24/13/12
28/9/7
42/12/8
34/16/18
40/11/3
44/20/6
25/20/9


If that is shutting down then Giannis is better than I thought. But Tatum was not exposed. I hate whenever a player loses a game or a series he is "exposed." What a joke! Tatum is a great player and ascending every year.


Fair fair, but Giannis did had his share of struggles that I guess doesnt really appear on a stat sheat, and Tatum + Horford were great defensively in that series.
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Post#15 » by Stan34 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 pm

Karate Diop wrote:Was he exposed though?

I've detailed the exact issue with his game, that gets compounded by the similar issues in Brown's game, for years... None of what happened was surprising.

The trajectory is still good, but the very real flaws need to be addressed. And if they can't be improved via player development then it's time to move on from Brown and his selfish ballhoggery so that you can maximize what you have in the superior Tatum.
Jaylen ball hog? He scored 23.1 for the PO on 17 shots. With 47/37/76 plus 7R, 3.5 assist and 1 steal per game.
ONE of the most efficient scorer in the league.
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Post#16 » by wade44 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:44 pm

He’s just a very average player when he no longer is protected by the referee whistle. Most of his game revolves around flopping his way to the line on every drive
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Post#17 » by Profound23 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:46 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:A month ago he shut down and beat Giannis. It took the greatest NBA team in recent memory to stop Tatum and Celtics. He is also 24 I believe, most all time greats with multiple championships didnt win their first ship until they were closing to 30.

Do people even know what exposed mean. I mean I am no expert of this language, but to me, exposed would mean that someone exposed so previously unknown weakness of something, lets say a player, that makes that player useless from now on with opponents having that knowledge. Tatum is far from eposed, he sucked, but he will come back stronger.



LOL....cmon man. I just gave Tatum his props, he will be back to this level if they keep that team together.

However, he did not shut down Giannis and his team beat Giannis's team. He barely guarded Giannis that was mostly Horford/Grant Williams...and even still Giannis put up:

24/13/12
28/9/7
42/12/8
34/16/18
40/11/3
44/20/6
25/20/9


If that is shutting down then Giannis is better than I thought. But Tatum was not exposed. I hate whenever a player loses a game or a series he is "exposed." What a joke! Tatum is a great player and ascending every year.


Fair fair, but Giannis did had his share of struggles that I guess doesnt really appear on a stat sheat, and Tatum + Horford were great defensively in that series.
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No doubt, the entire Celtics team was great defensively. Only struggles with Giannis was eventually he just wore down late in games from carrying a team of players who decided they did not want to show up to a playoff series. Horford, Tatum, Grant, Smart, Brown, Robert Williams all did what they could in the meantime. It was a team effort to win that series and it was a team effort to lose this one. Nobody got "exposed" and I am tired of seeing this overused hyperbole. Should be a fun series next postseason as long as both teams are relatively healthy.
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Post#18 » by Profound23 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:49 pm

Pharenheit wrote:He’s just a very average player when he no longer is protected by the referee whistle. Most of his game revolves around flopping his way to the line on every drive



Disagree with this. You can say that about Smart, Grant Williams, Derrick White, and even Horford at times.....but Tatum isn't a renowned flopper.

Sure he flops at times, but so does the entire NBA. IMO, when compared to the average NBA player Smart/Grant/White/Horford flop more often and Tatum is below the average. If nothing else, his game relies on a lot of traveling with the side step shuffle.....but you can't call that with the traveling you allow players like Curry, Harden, Lebron, Giannis, etc. get away with.
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Post#19 » by brutalitops » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:52 pm

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Post#20 » by maxpower8888 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:00 pm

He wasn't exposed, he just had a bad series.

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