Who is the Worst Career 20ppg+ Scorers

Hussien Fatal · Post #1 » by **Hussien Fatal** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 6:59 pm

After looking at the other 20ppg career scorers these are players who I believe to be the worst players to average 20 for their careers. Here are my nominees…who do you think is the worst player of these career 20ppg career scorers?

Geoff Petrie-21.8ppg Two time Allstar
Glenn Robinson-20.7ppg Two Time Allstar
John Drew-20.7ppg Two time Allstar
John Brisker-20.7ppg Two time Allstar
World B Free-20.3ppg One time Allstar
Bob Verga-20.2ppg One time Allstar

Tough choice but I’m gonna go with the big dog Glenn Robinson, obviously he was a decent scorer like the other players but he lacked a high motor, he always seemed like he wasn’t putting in his top effort so for me he’s the worst of the bunch.

Ryoga Hibiki · Post #2 » by **Ryoga Hibiki** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:05 pm

Mashburn?

Tor_Raps · Post #3 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:07 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:Mashburn?

Wash your mouth. That dude was a beast and a true point forward. He'd be great in today's game.

RTG HD · Post #4 » by **RTG HD** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:11 pm

Interesting, I kind of liked Glenn Robinson and Geoff Petrie.

NZB2323 · Post #5 » by **NZB2323** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:14 pm

Glenn Robinson was a horrible defensive player.

celticfan42487 · Post #6 » by **celticfan42487** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:30 pm

Probably the recent ones since defense isn't allowed and it's so easy to score in the league these days

Long2_noD · Post #7 » by **Long2_noD** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:33 pm

Mitch Richmond.

Yes, a six time All-Star Mitch Richmond.

During his prime seasons in SAC he played in a grand total of 4 playoff games. One win.
Also averaged below 4 rebs. Pretty bleak for a guy with his frame.

Didn't do much besides scoring.

rtiff68 · Post #8 » by **rtiff68** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:36 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:Probably the recent ones since defense isn't allowed and it's so easy to score in the league these days

Was defense allowed in the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html

Bologna Smasher · Post #9 » by **Bologna Smasher** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:39 pm

Long2_noD wrote:Mitch Richmond.

Yes, a six time All-Star Mitch Richmond.

During his prime seasons in SAC he played in a grand total of 4 playoff games. One win.
Also averaged below 4 rebs. Pretty bleak for a guy with his frame.

Didn't do much besides scoring.

Blasphemy!

The fact that he even made the playoffs with most of those rosters is an achievement in itself.

GSWFan1994 · Post #10 » by **GSWFan1994** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:41 pm

Nikola Jokic

(that's the answer Hussien wants to hear)

mcfly1204 · Post #11 » by **mcfly1204** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:47 pm

Collin Sexton...

ReddoverKobe · Post #12 » by **ReddoverKobe** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:50 pm

Julius randle or Miles Bridges?

Post #13 » by **tsherkin** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 8:05 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
Ryoga Hibiki wrote:Mashburn?

Wash your mouth. That dude was a beast and a true point forward. He'd be great in today's game.

No but for real, he was stank garbage as a scorer. Career 96 TS+ guy whose three best seasons were 102, 102 and 101 TS+. 50.4% TS on his career, five seasons under 50%. Yeah, he could do some other things around that, but he was a BAD scorer at the NBA level.

ropjhk · Post #14 » by **ropjhk** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 8:21 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Ryoga Hibiki wrote:Mashburn?

Wash your mouth. That dude was a beast and a true point forward. He'd be great in today's game.

No but for real, he was stank garbage as a scorer. Career 96 TS+ guy whose three best seasons were 102, 102 and 101 TS+. 50.4% TS on his career, five seasons under 50%. Yeah, he could do some other things around that, but he was a BAD scorer at the NBA level.

To be fair his prime scoring seasons took place between between 2001 to 2004 which was a time when scoring efficiency around the NBA in general was down.

Ein Sof · Post #15 » by **Ein Sof** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 8:21 pm

Mr. -425 TS Add

Courtside · Post #16 » by **Courtside** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 8:24 pm

Mike James - 2005, free chucking season
Shareef Abdur Rahim - did it 6 times, never won jack

Post #17 » by **tsherkin** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 8:29 pm

ropjhk wrote:To be fair his prime scoring seasons took place between between 2001 to 2004 which was a time when scoring efficiency around the NBA in general was down.

Irrelevant, though, because he was stank relative to his own era. That's why I was mostly discussing TS+. Mashburn was either very bad or mediocre enough to be not worth his volume.

His top scoring seasons were his second and third seasons, and he was bad in 95, and then REALLY bad in 96. Then around came Charlotte from 01-04. 02 and 04 are effectively write-offs because he just wasn't healthy at all, and he was crap in both of them (as a scorer). He was 49.3% TS in 01 (-2.5%) and 50.7% in 03 (his All-Star season, -1.2%). Not good.

Mash was a talent, but he wasn't good at scoring in the NBA. He was a good rebounder, and for his time, he was a good wing playmaker. But man, scoring well was not his thing.

Post #18 » by **tsherkin** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 8:33 pm

Ein Sof wrote:Mr. -425 TS Add

Ah, Iverson. 99-01 and then again in 06, he was actually a reasonably high-impact player for his teams in terms of OBPM. He's a guy who definitely would have looked better in the modern era, even with his tepid jumper. With his speed and handle, he'd just be slithering into the paint all the time. He'd still not be a hyper-efficient player, but yeah, he'd look better today. I don't know that I'd call him the WORST 20+ ppg scorer, though, that's a little aggressive.

Post #19 » by **Duffman100** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 8:39 pm

Courtside wrote:Mike James - 2005, free chucking season
Shareef Abdur Rahim - did it 6 times, never won jack

Mike James was oddly very good that year.

Post #20 » by **tsherkin** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 8:42 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Courtside wrote:Mike James - 2005, free chucking season
Shareef Abdur Rahim - did it 6 times, never won jack

Mike James was oddly very good that year.

That year was hilarious. Crap team, green light, wild-ass career-high from 3. He'd been a good 3pt shooter to begin with, second year after the rules changes... and he was just connecting like nothing I've seen. Least-assisted 3pt volume of his career and dude was trying to be Steph before Steph, it was insane. We were so, so bad on defense, but clicking on O because he was just driving it every game behind Bosh. Nuts. And then never again even close, lol.