Why BALL HOGS never win a chamionchip?
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I leave here % of FG Ast'd per PO career for TOP perimeter players. You can draw your own conclusions.
1. Paul .135
2. Doncic .135
3. Nash .204
4. Westbrook .213
5. Harden .229
6. Wade .291
7. Lebron .326
8. Kobe .349
9. Curry .409
10. Kidd .447
1. Paul .135
2. Doncic .135
3. Nash .204
4. Westbrook .213
5. Harden .229
6. Wade .291
7. Lebron .326
8. Kobe .349
9. Curry .409
10. Kidd .447
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Ball dominance leads to dependence on a singular player.
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Paul ball dominance on another level
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Kobe won 5 of them as a ball hog. He was an elite passer when he wanted to be or an elite ISO scorer when he wanted to be, but rarely ever balanced both
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SpreeS wrote:I leave here % of FG Ast'd per PO career for TOP perimeter players. You can draw your own conclusions.
1. Paul .135
2. Doncic .135
3. Nash .204
4. Westbrook .213
5. Harden .229
6. Wade .291
7. Lebron .326
8. Kobe .349
9. Curry .409
10. Kidd .447
What is this saying again? Kobe is the biggest ball hog on the list and he won multiple champion shops.

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Pennebaker wrote:SpreeS wrote:I leave here % of FG Ast'd per PO career for TOP perimeter players. You can draw your own conclusions.
1. Paul .135
2. Doncic .135
3. Nash .204
4. Westbrook .213
5. Harden .229
6. Wade .291
7. Lebron .326
8. Kobe .349
9. Curry .409
10. Kidd .447
What is this saying again? Kobe is the biggest ball hog on the list and he won multiple champion shops.
don't you know the numbers?
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I don't understand the logic. So Nash is a ballhog because he could make shots off the dribble whereas Kidd isn't because he couldn't?
hauntedcomputer wrote:Jokic is just a stranger dribbling a basketball. The humility bit could well be a carefully crafted business model for all we know. It's actually getting as tiresome as egotistical bloviating at this point. "Look at me, look how humble I am!!"
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SpreeS wrote:Pennebaker wrote:SpreeS wrote:I leave here % of FG Ast'd per PO career for TOP perimeter players. You can draw your own conclusions.
1. Paul .135
2. Doncic .135
3. Nash .204
4. Westbrook .213
5. Harden .229
6. Wade .291
7. Lebron .326
8. Kobe .349
9. Curry .409
10. Kidd .447
What is this saying again? Kobe is the biggest ball hog on the list and he won multiple champion shops.
don't you know the number?
I don't know what you're talking about. It would be nice if you provided a link to the data you're citing then there would be no confusion and we could better understand the full context.

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A ball hog is not someone who doesn't get assisted. That's a false premise to begin with. I assume that's why the OP didn't include the data set he hand picked from.
A ball hog is someone who takes more shots than they should, with the word "should" being totally subjective. Let me know when you have a stat for that.
A ball hog is someone who takes more shots than they should, with the word "should" being totally subjective. Let me know when you have a stat for that.
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SpreeS wrote:I leave here % of FG Ast'd per PO career for TOP perimeter players. You can draw your own conclusions.
1. Paul .135
2. Doncic .135
3. Nash .204
4. Westbrook .213
5. Harden .229
6. Wade .291
7. Lebron .326
8. Kobe .349
9. Curry .409
10. Kidd .447
Another grand example of how stats without context are completely worthless.
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So, Nash and Paul are ball hogs and Kobe wasn't. Got it. If only Nash and Paul looked for their teammates more, they'd have some rings.
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Steve Nash the ball hog. Now I’ve seriously heard EVERYTHING. Good lord.
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Pennebaker wrote:SpreeS wrote:I leave here % of FG Ast'd per PO career for TOP perimeter players. You can draw your own conclusions.
1. Paul .135
2. Doncic .135
3. Nash .204
4. Westbrook .213
5. Harden .229
6. Wade .291
7. Lebron .326
8. Kobe .349
9. Curry .409
10. Kidd .447
What is this saying again? Kobe is the biggest ball hog on the list and he won multiple champion shops.
Kobe lead the Lakers in assists for many seasons even though he was the shooting guard not the point guard
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Pennebaker wrote:SpreeS wrote:Pennebaker wrote:
What is this saying again? Kobe is the biggest ball hog on the list and he won multiple champion shops.
don't you know the number?
I don't know what you're talking about. It would be nice if you provided a link to the data you're citing then there would be no confusion and we could better understand the full context.
Man, this data is available for many many years on BB-RF.COM with shooting data. They offer only separate Ast’d 2P and 3P, I counted total assisted FG.
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Sane wrote:A ball hog is not someone who doesn't get assisted. That's a false premise to begin with. I assume that's why the OP didn't include the data set he hand picked from.
A ball hog is someone who takes more shots than they should, with the word "should" being totally subjective. Let me know when you have a stat for that.
This could have been said only by Harden/Doncic/Westbrick/Paul fans…
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So the conclusion of the list is that stacked teams win you championships, got ya
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SpreeS wrote:Sane wrote:A ball hog is not someone who doesn't get assisted. That's a false premise to begin with. I assume that's why the OP didn't include the data set he hand picked from.
A ball hog is someone who takes more shots than they should, with the word "should" being totally subjective. Let me know when you have a stat for that.
This could have been said only by Harden/Doncic/Westbrick/Paul fans…
Adding a player who is four years in the league with the first two years being a total rebuild to a "blabla will never win a ring" says everything you need to know about your agenda
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Predictability. Which makes it easy to defend that leads to lower points per shot.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
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This doesn't tell anything about ball hogging. Just how their systems were set up.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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Swish1906 wrote:So the conclusion of the list is that stacked teams win you championships, got ya
The point is that these players teams played only two time in the Finals from 60/70 attempts…and teams like Nash Dal/PHO, Westbrook OKC, Harden OKC/HOU/PHI/BKN, Paul LAC/HOU/PHO were capable to win it all. Even before DAL/GSW matchup this year, DAL had very good odds to win it all.