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Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:52 pm
by Wigginstime
I watch the comparison board a lot and generally Carmelo Anthony performs horrible on all comparison topics. In the last year i've seen people generally agree that all of the following players are better than Anthony:
Tracy McGrady
Ray Allen
Reggie Miller
Gary Payton
Paul Pierce
Jason Kidd
Chris Paul
Paul George
Jimmy Butler
Jayson Tatum
Chauncey Billups
etc
I get Melos Career had a rough decline but why is everyone so dismissive of his accomplishments. Will we really look back and remember someone like Paul George or Jimmy Butler as superior to Melo?
When looking at career accomplishments can you really justify a case for Butler or PG13 as better player than Melo?
Melo:
Top 10 all time scorer with 28,000 career points
3 Gold Olympic Medals
NBA Scoring Champion
NCAA national champion
10x NBA all star
PG13
15000 career points
7x NBA all star
Butler
12000 career points
6x NBA all star
2 NBA finals losses
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:52 pm
by floppymoose
no
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:14 pm
by Statlanta
Every season the Knicks don't get past the second round his stock in theory should improve.
Most wins since the Ewing era. Only guy to steal MVP vote from peak LeBron. Eliminated prime CP3 And Dirk, faced Kobe in the WCF. Higher career high than LBJ.
I think what he did prior to his regression 2014-2018 is underappreciated
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:31 pm
by CraftylikeaFox
Peak Carmelo Anthony was a demon. Screw the haters.
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:34 pm
by Egg Nog
I doubt people in the future will increasingly appreciate relatively inefficient scorers who didn't bring much else to the table.
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:38 pm
by TwitterFingers
How’s Paul George and Jimmy Butler not better than Melo?
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:41 pm
by knicksNOTslick
To me, he was more deserving of Rookie of the Year than Lebron. That was the only time they were on the same level.
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:46 pm
by KnicksGadfly
I take Jimmy Butler over Melo any day
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:46 pm
by Beethoven
Carmelo Anthony. Im glad he had a stint with the Lakers.
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:47 pm
by zeebneeb
Anthony will be viewed the exact same way Dominique Wilkins is in about 10 years, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Same type of player.
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:48 pm
by Lockdown504090
the man took a 5 year deal in denver when everyone else was doing 3. forced his way to new york, dismantling all their assets when the knicks could have just signed him outright with a few moves. Then proceeded to sign 2 deals with the worst franchise in the nba.
his image would have been better if he actually demonstrated he was attempting to win a championship.
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:11 pm
by Swish1906
I think the average fan will forget about him real fast if he doesnt seek a media job post career...
And the only reason "he" beat prime Dirk was the reason that he had the way better team around him and every non Dirk Mav choked.
Dirk Nowitzki averaged 34.4 points, 11.6 rebounds and 4.0 assists in 5 games versus the Nuggets in the 2009 Western Conference Semifinals.
Carmelo Anthony averaged 30.0 points, 6.8 rebounds and 3.4 assists in 5 games versus the Mavericks in the 2009 Western Conference Semifinals.
28k points and no jersey retirement anywhere
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:13 pm
by Sark
Not unless he goes to a title contender, and contributes off the bench.
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:25 pm
by Johnny Tomala
2008-09 Nuggets should have won the series vs the Lakers (they were much better in Game 1 and somehow lost this game, due to Carter inbound), then in Game 3 they lost close game again due to inbound. It was the only time Melo played on contender.
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:28 pm
by Ein Sof
He's already viewed as a GOAT-level player so I don't see how it possibly could
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:31 pm
by KyRo23
Ein Sof wrote:He's already viewed as a GOAT-level player so I don't see how it possibly could
By whomst?
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:39 pm
by kwajo
knicksNOTslick wrote:To me, he was more deserving of Rookie of the Year than Lebron. That was the only time they were on the same level.
I was in this camp during their first year, there was a fairly large contingent of fans that agreed, no matter how few admit to it now.
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:49 pm
by JujitsuFlip
OP, you're asking if 2 way players are better than 1 way players? Yes, obviously.
Melo is known for being a scorer, who didn't do it on great efficiency, doesn't facilitate for his teammates, negative defender, and honestly probably not as good of a rebounder as someone his size should be.
The guy always went for the money, it's the same narrative Beal has to look forward to.
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:00 am
by theanimal23
I don't think so
One of the few times he could have tried to 'build his legacy' was in 2014 and join Rose/Gasol, but opted to stay with the Knicks
Re: Will Carmelo Anthony Legacy Significantly Improve with Time?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:03 am
by BobbyPortisEyes
He's better than Tatum (which will probably change at some point) and somewhat close to Billups and Paul George. He's obviously more talented than Reggie Miller and Jimmy Butler but those two guys are "gamers" with a knack for the big moment.. Melo doesn't have enough moments. I don't think he should be viewed as better than any of the other players you mentioned.