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He won’t budge on his ask of SIX first round picks? No problem, let Mitchell ruin your tank and just have yourself a disgruntled superstar. We have all the assets and therefore we, the Knicks, can dictate how this goes down.

Don’t wanna trade us D Mitchell? Hey Brooklyn, how’s Randle, 4 firsts, and D Rose for KD?

We have 8 firsts at our disposal, don’t mess this up, and like I been saying since this regime took over, I’ve got faith in them not messing this up.

Even four firsts is a lot of picks, but if we can do fournier, Reddish, 4 firsts, I’m into it. If not let Danny [and unfortunately, Donovan] rot.

The less we give up in a Mitchell deal the more we have for a follow up deal to pair another star next to RJ:Brunson:Mitchell.

Yes, Randle and 3 or 4 firsts can get you something in this market.

Well you convinced me. I will let Danny Ainge rot.

I mean obviously his strategy is working if you are frustrated enough to be writing this.

The Gobert trade messed up the entire offseason. He got such a haul that you simply can't trade KD or Mitchell for anything less. While Mitchell might not be a better player right now, he is much younger than Gobert, so it makes sense that their trade value is close.

Sweet Jesus we got a confident Knicks fan

Randle isn't a positive asset.

OrangeBlueSkies wrote:He won’t budge on his ask of SIX first round picks? No problem, let Mitchell ruin your tank and just have yourself a disgruntled superstar. We have all the assets and therefore we, the Knicks, can dictate how this goes down.

Don’t wanna trade us D Mitchell? Hey Brooklyn, how’s Randle, 4 firsts, and D Rose for KD?

We have 8 firsts at our disposal, don’t mess this up, and like I been saying since this regime took over, I’ve got faith in them not messing this up.

Even four firsts is a lot of picks, but if we can do fournier, Reddish, 4 firsts, I’m into it. If not let Danny [and unfortunately, Donovan] rot.

The less we give up in a Mitchell deal the more we have for a follow up deal to pair another star next to RJ:Brunson:Mitchell.

Yes, Randle and 3 or 4 firsts can get you something in this market.

how Knicks' fan thinks their assets look.



how Knicks assets really look.

OrangeBlueSkies wrote:He won’t budge on his ask of SIX first round picks? No problem, let Mitchell ruin your tank and just have yourself a disgruntled superstar. We have all the assets and therefore we, the Knicks, can dictate how this goes down.

Don’t wanna trade us D Mitchell? Hey Brooklyn, how’s Randle, 4 firsts, and D Rose for KD?

We have 8 firsts at our disposal, don’t mess this up, and like I been saying since this regime took over, I’ve got faith in them not messing this up.

Even four firsts is a lot of picks, but if we can do fournier, Reddish, 4 firsts, I’m into it. If not let Danny [and unfortunately, Donovan] rot.

The less we give up in a Mitchell deal the more we have for a follow up deal to pair another star next to RJ:Brunson:Mitchell.

Yes, Randle and 3 or 4 firsts can get you something in this market.

THE Demolition Man


You know everyone wants to claim Ainge got soooo much for Gorbert. I'm not so sure. Minnesota got none of the Wolves top four players ... maybe not even a top six guy. That's a lot of salary filler. Would Beasley, Beverly or Vanderbilt get you a FRP in a heads up trade? I'm not so sure.

So Utah gets lots of bits of value stretched out over seven years. You might expect your value to double in seven years. So real immediate value must be discounted then as well. What would Gorbert be worth in just FRP value? Two, maybe (probably) three.

So, if you discount the eight FRPs over seven years against a package delivering value now. Maybe you get Four FRPs in value maybe five. Still, everyone agrees that four quarters aren't worth a dollar in the NBA ... so ten dimes is probably worth even less.

I'm not saying Minnie didn't overpay somewhat, but given they think they are ready to compete and Gorbert can add to what the have nicely ... it's not that bad a move.


As for getting a haul for Mitchell ... same thing only if it pays out over a decade.


Last point - Randle, D Rose and four FRPs is probably the fourth best offer the Nets and KD might agree upon. New Orleans, Phoenix and Toronto can all give far better assets up front ... even to the point of only needing to include 3 FRPs to still edge you out. Now include Barrett and you may be in the running. Fournier and Reddish will put on par with the Lakers.

I'm on board with letting Ainge rot, I suggest a Venezuelan prison

Also on board with the narrative the TWolves front office's below room temperature (in Minny) IQ level trade ruined the offseason. We could have had fun trades all over the board but they had to go and trade like 8 million picks for freaking Gobert, who barely anyone else was even bidding on

As for NYK they need to stand firm, Brunson and Mitchell is undersized, you can't trade the farm for that perpetual 2nd round exit backcourt. Just say no.

Chill!!!!!!!!
They’ll make a trade eventually
If Ainge rots so will the Knicks and this lottery roster
Coming from a fan of both teams

Just have patience. The reason why the Knicks have been so terrible for the past two decades is precisely because of rushing into hasty, short term moves that were to the detriment of the long term outlook of the team.

You don't need to gut your draft pick arsenal to get Donovan Mitchell. If no other team is interested in trading for him at the going rate then Danny Ainge will be forced to lower the asking price in a few months. And if he doesn't - oh well. There will be another unhappy star that demands out of their situation that you can try to trade for by next off-season.

"Take what im offering or suffer a terrible fate"

Ainge is so unrealistic though you almost know you lost if you do business with him

It will likely get done...

RoundMoundOfRebound wrote:It will likely get done...

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Best thing about this thread right there.

whatisacenter wrote:

OrangeBlueSkies wrote:He won’t budge on his ask of SIX first round picks? No problem, let Mitchell ruin your tank and just have yourself a disgruntled superstar. We have all the assets and therefore we, the Knicks, can dictate how this goes down.

Don’t wanna trade us D Mitchell? Hey Brooklyn, how’s Randle, 4 firsts, and D Rose for KD?

We have 8 firsts at our disposal, don’t mess this up, and like I been saying since this regime took over, I’ve got faith in them not messing this up.

Even four firsts is a lot of picks, but if we can do fournier, Reddish, 4 firsts, I’m into it. If not let Danny [and unfortunately, Donovan] rot.

The less we give up in a Mitchell deal the more we have for a follow up deal to pair another star next to RJ:Brunson:Mitchell.

Yes, Randle and 3 or 4 firsts can get you something in this market.

how Knicks' fan thinks their assets look.



how Knicks assets really look.

Har har har.

If these assets weren't so valuable, why is Ainge so adamant about grabbing as many as he can?

OrangeBlueSkies wrote:Hey Brooklyn, how’s Randle, 4 firsts, and D Rose for KD?

A big fat NO I assume

How has no one commented on the confidence this guy has in Randle, Rose and 4 FRP netting Kevin Durant?

Like, really?

I agree with you in principle but why would the Nets do that trade? Stop it

knicks have no leverage in the situation. ainge will win the trade, and if the knicks get mitchell.....good luck with your 6'1" no defense backcourt.

BlazersBroncos wrote:How has no one commented on the confidence this guy has in Randle, Rose and 4 FRP netting Kevin Durant?

Like, really?

Haha 20 years of losing will make you delusional.

Knick fans think they're getting every superstar and yet the only guys they have gotten are one way players who are defensively challenged so I'm sure they'll eventually end up with Mitchell lol.