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The Mitchell Trade is an example of why I HATE the NBA media. 

Post#1 » by CallMeKahn » Mon Sep 5, 2022 10:34 am

Let's see, so Utah went from "trading Mitchell"

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to "trading him for a lesser package than they would have initially gotten from New York despite the package first being reported by Ian Bagley in July as a Utah offer which New York declined"

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to "Utah and New York won't trade with each other Ainge and Rose are mean stinky doodie heads that eat farts"

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268513/RJ-Barrett-Extension-Created-Incredible-Amount-Of-Animus-Between-Knicks-Jazz

The New York Knicks and Utah Jazz had made "some progress, some traction" on a Donovan Mitchell trade before a contract extension was agreed to with RJ Barrett, which led to a collapse to the talks.

"A wrecking ball hit when the Knicks and Jazz wouldn't come to terms," said Brian Windhorst. "I don't know who said no. I don't know if it was the Knicks who said no, or the Jazz who said no. The Knicks went ahead and signed RJ Barrett to a contract extension on Monday.

"That created an incredible amount of animus between the two organizations. I definitely felt it in talking to people over the last 24 hours. I will tell you that even though I felt that there was some scar tissue there, I was saying 'It is only August 31st, September 1st. That doesn't mean they're not going to do a deal.'"


to now "Mitchell was shipped to the rural backwater of Cleveland in the hinterlands of Ohio than the urban utopia of New York because he didn't want to stay in Utah despite never asking for a trade in the first place."

Read on Twitter


I won't even address just how awful the NY Post has been during this crap.

I love the drama of the offseason, but this Fox News/CNN clickbait bull**** currently infesting the NBA media is burning me out. Can the season just start already?
daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone


Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.
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Post#2 » by TrentTuckerRule » Mon Sep 5, 2022 10:45 am

reading 1000+ pages on the imminent Spida trade on the Knicks board was fun as well
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Post#3 » by CallMeKahn » Mon Sep 5, 2022 11:02 am

TrentTuckerRule wrote:reading 1000+ pages on the imminent Spida trade on the Knicks board was fun as well

Always people with "inside sources" assured Jazz fans that a deal would happen in the next 15 minutes or whenever Ainge got done on the pot. :lol:

I love the drama from the "wow that was unexpected" or "OMG LET'S GOOOOO!!!!1" standpoints. I hate after action post-mortems because they just make sh*t up to suit whatever narratives they're trying to push. I'm disappointed Woj even got in on it.
daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone


Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.
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Post#4 » by stitches » Mon Sep 5, 2022 11:14 am

CallMeKahn wrote:Let's see, so Utah went from "trading Mitchell"

Read on Twitter


to "trading him for a lesser package than they would have initially gotten from New York despite the package first being reported by Ian Bagley in July as a Utah offer which New York declined"

Read on Twitter


to "Utah and New York won't trade with each other Ainge and Rose are mean stinky doodie heads that eat farts"

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268513/RJ-Barrett-Extension-Created-Incredible-Amount-Of-Animus-Between-Knicks-Jazz

The New York Knicks and Utah Jazz had made "some progress, some traction" on a Donovan Mitchell trade before a contract extension was agreed to with RJ Barrett, which led to a collapse to the talks.

"A wrecking ball hit when the Knicks and Jazz wouldn't come to terms," said Brian Windhorst. "I don't know who said no. I don't know if it was the Knicks who said no, or the Jazz who said no. The Knicks went ahead and signed RJ Barrett to a contract extension on Monday.

"That created an incredible amount of animus between the two organizations. I definitely felt it in talking to people over the last 24 hours. I will tell you that even though I felt that there was some scar tissue there, I was saying 'It is only August 31st, September 1st. That doesn't mean they're not going to do a deal.'"


to now "Mitchell was shipped to the rural backwater of Cleveland in the hinterlands of Ohio than the urban utopia of New York because he didn't want to stay in Utah despite never asking for a trade in the first place."

Read on Twitter


I won't even address just how awful the NY Post has been during this crap.

I love the drama of the offseason, but this Fox News/CNN clickbait bull**** currently infesting the NBA media is burning me out. Can the season just start already?


Haha, yeah... that offer is my favorite. You just have to ignore that Mitchell Robinson was an unrestricted free agent and he wasn't Knicks' to offer. The CAA shill Woj was doing hard work of damage control for his buddy Leon Rose after the Knicks FO **** the bed and lost a player they have been preparing to get for the last 3 year and assumed was theirs to have. It's hilarious... from getting Walt Perrin who was the scout that scouted him and lead the workout where the Jazz fell in love with Mitchell, to getting his personal coach Johnnie Bryant... Now they are trying to paint Ainge as the petty emotional one who just wanted to screw over the Knicks... yeah... because that's how you get the reputation for a trade master - by getting sub-optimal packages because of personal beefs. Totally makes sense.
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Post#5 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Sep 5, 2022 11:23 am

CallMeKahn wrote:love the drama of the offseason, but this Fox News/CNN clickbait bull**** currently infesting the NBA media is burning me out. Can the season just start already?

Here is my best advise. Switch NBA off completely and watch the Eurobasket for a couple of weeks.

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Post#6 » by CallMeKahn » Mon Sep 5, 2022 11:27 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
CallMeKahn wrote:love the drama of the offseason, but this Fox News/CNN clickbait bull**** currently infesting the NBA media is burning me out. Can the season just start already?

Here is my best advise. Switch NBA off completely and watch the Eurobasket for a couple of weeks.

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I have been, but it's also hard to get away from the blurbs in case something interesting happens than Woj giving Rose a handie. Self-defeating logic I know.
daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone


Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.
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Post#7 » by Galou » Mon Sep 5, 2022 12:13 pm

The Tabloids and some Knicks fans still won't move on about Donovon Mitchell.

I'm avoiding basketball news till the season starts.
The (please use a more appropriate word) still talking about redundant news irritates me.
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Post#8 » by leolozon » Mon Sep 5, 2022 12:37 pm

It does seem like a lot of the media and NY fans are trying to spin this as positively as possible by making the Jazz front office appear irrational and vindicative. They essentially paint themselves as victims with the idea of that New York tax.

"Small market are the lucky ones!!! We have a big market tax to pay! We had to give more than the Cavs! Poor us. The front office couldn't do anything about it. The Jazz front office didn't like us and didn't want to let Mitchell go to the city he wanted!"

It looks more likely that Rose thought he had the upper hand and held his ground. Perfectly fine if you don't think Mitchell is worth 3 unprotected first and young players, but the spin is pretty crazy right now.
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Post#9 » by Sofia » Mon Sep 5, 2022 12:47 pm

Ric Bucher is full of ****. Don’t trust anything he says.

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Post#10 » by dautjazz » Mon Sep 5, 2022 12:52 pm

While Donovan would definitely like NY more for a home, if anything we did him a favor professionally, he was never leaving the first round with Knicks. He can always go to the Knicks or Nets when his current contract is up.
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Post#11 » by Lockdown504090 » Mon Sep 5, 2022 12:52 pm

CallMeKahn wrote:Let's see, so Utah went from "trading Mitchell"

Read on Twitter


to "trading him for a lesser package than they would have initially gotten from New York despite the package first being reported by Ian Bagley in July as a Utah offer which New York declined"

Read on Twitter


to "Utah and New York won't trade with each other Ainge and Rose are mean stinky doodie heads that eat farts"

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268513/RJ-Barrett-Extension-Created-Incredible-Amount-Of-Animus-Between-Knicks-Jazz

The New York Knicks and Utah Jazz had made "some progress, some traction" on a Donovan Mitchell trade before a contract extension was agreed to with RJ Barrett, which led to a collapse to the talks.

"A wrecking ball hit when the Knicks and Jazz wouldn't come to terms," said Brian Windhorst. "I don't know who said no. I don't know if it was the Knicks who said no, or the Jazz who said no. The Knicks went ahead and signed RJ Barrett to a contract extension on Monday.

"That created an incredible amount of animus between the two organizations. I definitely felt it in talking to people over the last 24 hours. I will tell you that even though I felt that there was some scar tissue there, I was saying 'It is only August 31st, September 1st. That doesn't mean they're not going to do a deal.'"


to now "Mitchell was shipped to the rural backwater of Cleveland in the hinterlands of Ohio than the urban utopia of New York because he didn't want to stay in Utah despite never asking for a trade in the first place."

Read on Twitter


I won't even address just how awful the NY Post has been during this crap.

I love the drama of the offseason, but this Fox News/CNN clickbait bull**** currently infesting the NBA media is burning me out. Can the season just start already?

This is a coherent timeline and they are able to offer robinson in sign and trade if hes with it, talks soured, and animosity grew. Idk why ppl think theyre pulling sources from nowhere, when you go to nationally televised games, you see these people talking to these exact media ppl, when you go to summer league and see them talking, its not about lunch plans. These guys just report what front office staffs tell them and its your job to figure out why theyre saying what they are saying.
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Post#12 » by God Squad » Mon Sep 5, 2022 12:53 pm

New York media/propaganda is awful. No doubt about it. . But I still think the Knicks offer is better with their picks being more valuable.
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Post#13 » by God Squad » Mon Sep 5, 2022 12:55 pm

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CallMeKahn wrote:Let's see, so Utah went from "trading Mitchell"

Read on Twitter


to "trading him for a lesser package than they would have initially gotten from New York despite the package first being reported by Ian Bagley in July as a Utah offer which New York declined"

Spoiler:
Read on Twitter


to "Utah and New York won't trade with each other Ainge and Rose are mean stinky doodie heads that eat farts"

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268513/RJ-Barrett-Extension-Created-Incredible-Amount-Of-Animus-Between-Knicks-Jazz

The New York Knicks and Utah Jazz had made "some progress, some traction" on a Donovan Mitchell trade before a contract extension was agreed to with RJ Barrett, which led to a collapse to the talks.

"A wrecking ball hit when the Knicks and Jazz wouldn't come to terms," said Brian Windhorst. "I don't know who said no. I don't know if it was the Knicks who said no, or the Jazz who said no. The Knicks went ahead and signed RJ Barrett to a contract extension on Monday.

"That created an incredible amount of animus between the two organizations. I definitely felt it in talking to people over the last 24 hours. I will tell you that even though I felt that there was some scar tissue there, I was saying 'It is only August 31st, September 1st. That doesn't mean they're not going to do a deal.'"


to now "Mitchell was shipped to the rural backwater of Cleveland in the hinterlands of Ohio than the urban utopia of New York because he didn't want to stay in Utah despite never asking for a trade in the first place."

Spoiler:
Read on Twitter


I won't even address just how awful the NY Post has been during this crap.

I love the drama of the offseason, but this Fox News/CNN clickbait bull**** currently infesting the NBA media is burning me out. Can the season just start already?

This is a coherent timeline and they are able to offer robinson in sign and trade if hes with it, talks soured, and animosity grew. Idk why ppl think theyre pulling sources from nowhere, when you go to nationally televised games, you see these people talking to these exact media ppl, when you go to summer league and see them talking, its not about lunch plans. These guys just report what front office staffs tell them and its your job to figure out why theyre saying what they are saying.

Yeah, But Ric Bucher sucks as$ so take what he says with a grain of salt.
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Post#14 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Mon Sep 5, 2022 12:58 pm

Think you not drawing the line between rumors and media. Rumor mill isn’t suppose to be right all the time. Why it’s a rumor.
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Post#15 » by Lockdown504090 » Mon Sep 5, 2022 12:59 pm

God Squad wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:
CallMeKahn wrote:Let's see, so Utah went from "trading Mitchell"

Read on Twitter


to "trading him for a lesser package than they would have initially gotten from New York despite the package first being reported by Ian Bagley in July as a Utah offer which New York declined"

Spoiler:
Read on Twitter


to "Utah and New York won't trade with each other Ainge and Rose are mean stinky doodie heads that eat farts"

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268513/RJ-Barrett-Extension-Created-Incredible-Amount-Of-Animus-Between-Knicks-Jazz



to now "Mitchell was shipped to the rural backwater of Cleveland in the hinterlands of Ohio than the urban utopia of New York because he didn't want to stay in Utah despite never asking for a trade in the first place."

Spoiler:
Read on Twitter


I won't even address just how awful the NY Post has been during this crap.

I love the drama of the offseason, but this Fox News/CNN clickbait bull**** currently infesting the NBA media is burning me out. Can the season just start already?

This is a coherent timeline and they are able to offer robinson in sign and trade if hes with it, talks soured, and animosity grew. Idk why ppl think theyre pulling sources from nowhere, when you go to nationally televised games, you see these people talking to these exact media ppl, when you go to summer league and see them talking, its not about lunch plans. These guys just report what front office staffs tell them and its your job to figure out why theyre saying what they are saying.

Yeah, But Ric Bucher sucks as$ so take what he says with a grain of salt.

that doesnt make sense. Its important to dicipher whats reporting and whats opinion. everyone, even stephen a smith has to divulge sources to their bosses before they speak on pods, or tweet, or do actual reporting on tv. actual reporting is something they were actually told. they arent contractually allowed to spew nonsense like that
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Post#16 » by PhilBlackson » Mon Sep 5, 2022 1:05 pm

If I were Knicks fan I’d be over it & just focused on draft prospects tbh lol hey maybe you guys fluke into the top 2-3 and get Scoot then it’s liking getting Mitchell but arguably more upside and would have him locked in for 8 years….although being the Knicks good chance you end up with Gradey Dick instead lol

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Post#17 » by iLLmatic860 » Mon Sep 5, 2022 1:06 pm

leolozon wrote:It does seem like a lot of the media and NY fans are trying to spin this as positively as possible by making the Jazz front office appear irrational and vindicative. They essentially paint themselves as victims with the idea of that New York tax.

"Small market are the lucky ones!!! We have a big market tax to pay! We had to give more than the Cavs! Poor us. The front office couldn't do anything about it. The Jazz front office didn't like us and didn't want to let Mitchell go to the city he wanted!"

It looks more likely that Rose thought he had the upper hand and held his ground. Perfectly fine if you don't think Mitchell is worth 3 unprotected first and young players, but the spin is pretty crazy right now.

The NY tax was a Danny Ainge trying to fleece Knicks. I dont think every team operates like that.

Theres a reason why Pat Riley refused to deal with Ainge

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Post#18 » by leolozon » Mon Sep 5, 2022 1:17 pm

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leolozon wrote:It does seem like a lot of the media and NY fans are trying to spin this as positively as possible by making the Jazz front office appear irrational and vindicative. They essentially paint themselves as victims with the idea of that New York tax.

"Small market are the lucky ones!!! We have a big market tax to pay! We had to give more than the Cavs! Poor us. The front office couldn't do anything about it. The Jazz front office didn't like us and didn't want to let Mitchell go to the city he wanted!"

It looks more likely that Rose thought he had the upper hand and held his ground. Perfectly fine if you don't think Mitchell is worth 3 unprotected first and young players, but the spin is pretty crazy right now.

The NY tax was a Danny Ainge trying to fleece Knicks. I dont think every team operates like that.

Theres a reason why Pat Riley refused to deal with Ainge

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Where is the proof of a NY tax? This link is simply saying that Riley refused to give the same as the Cavs.
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Post#19 » by CallMeKahn » Mon Sep 5, 2022 1:30 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Think you not drawing the line between rumors and media. Rumor mill isn’t suppose to be right all the time. Why it’s a rumor.

No, I very much get the line. The issue is the media passing rumor as fact. Thanks though.
daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone


Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.
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Post#20 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Mon Sep 5, 2022 2:02 pm

CallMeKahn wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Think you not drawing the line between rumors and media. Rumor mill isn’t suppose to be right all the time. Why it’s a rumor.

No, I very much get the line. The issue is the media passing rumor as fact. Thanks though.

The media you posting are all rumor mill guys.

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