Who's significantly better in FIBA than NBA? (And vice versa)

[SUPERVILLAIN]

I started this topic right after I saw Lauri Markkanen's statline with Finland. 43 points (19/29 FG), 9 rebounds, 3 steals. Damn! I don't think he will be able to replicate those kind of numbers in the NBA though.

So here are two questions for you.
1. Which player is much better in FIBA than NBA?
2. Which player is much better in NBA than FIBA?

[JayMKE]

Markkanen probably wouldn’t get to be the focal point of an offense and put up 29 shots in the NBA. I think this narrative lost most of its steam with Giannis looking like Giannis this time around.

[Tor_Raps]

A lot of the answers is going to be simply because the player gets a much bigger role on their Olympic teams or vice versa.

[UcanUwill]

Sabonis still doesn't look nearly as good as NBA star should look. He is the guy imo.

[Mavrelous]

Markkanen probably wouldn’t get to be the focal point of an offense and put up 29 shots in the NBA. I think this narrative lost most of its steam with Giannis looking like Giannis this time around.

No reason not to, athletic 7 footer capable of shooting and finishing.

[User_friendly]

Rubio has shown to be significantly more stellar in FIBA than NBA.
Navarro also seemed much better in FIBA than NBA.
On the other hand, I have the impression the athletic style and use of space of Ja Morant and Donovan Mitchell might not translate so good to FIBA. But that's pure speculation, I have no objetive data for that.

[UcanUwill]

Rubio has shown to be significantly more stellar in FIBA than NBA.
Navarro also seemed much better in FIBA than NBA.
On the other hand, I have the impression the athletic style and use of space of Ja Morant and Donovan Mitchell might not translate so good to FIBA. But that's pure speculation, I have no objetive data for that.

Rubio was garbage in Europe for years, if anything it's a complete opposite. He always been elite NBA prospect while at the same time being so not up to par in Europe. 2019 was his redemption story, it was the first time where he looked like he finally learned how to be effective. Most players are better in FIBA simply because the level of competition is worse. Rubio is not that guy at all. Currently yes, but for minority of his career, complete opposite.

[Mavrelous]

Sabonis still doesn't look nearly as good as NBA star should look. He is the guy imo.

Sabonis is a great example, he bullies people in the NBA and can make amazing passes in the high post, in Lithuania, it feels he hurts more than helps.

[UcanUwill]

Markkanen probably wouldn’t get to be the focal point of an offense and put up 29 shots in the NBA. I think this narrative lost most of its steam with Giannis looking like Giannis this time around.

No reason not to, athletic 7 footer capable of shooting and finishing.

After seeing him today, kid has to be first option in Utah, right?

[Mavrelous]

Ainge is having Orgasm right now, Markannen and Fonetccio stock is skyrocketting.

[User_friendly]

Rubio has shown to be significantly more stellar in FIBA than NBA.
Navarro also seemed much better in FIBA than NBA.
On the other hand, I have the impression the athletic style and use of space of Ja Morant and Donovan Mitchell might not translate so good to FIBA. But that's pure speculation, I have no objetive data for that.

Rubio was garbage in Europe for years, if anything it's a complete opposite. He always been elite NBA prospect while at the same time being so not up to par in Europe. 2019 was his redemption story, it was the first time where he looked like he finally learned how to be effective. Most players are better in FIBA simply because the level of competition is worse. Rubio is not that guy at all. Currently yes, but for minority of his career, complete opposite.

Well I had forgotten some episodes of FIBA Rubio where he was not so good. But in FIBA basketball, where scores are lower and there's more control of the game and defense is more relevant, I think Rubio now is ranked higher as a player than in NBA.

[Ruma85]

Milos Teodosic

[davidfr94]

Patty Mills

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[SUPERVILLAIN]

Patty Mills

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FIBA Patty is a f*cking problem.

Watch on YouTube

[AussieCeltic]

Patty Mills is a FIBA king.

Australia does a great job of hiding him defensively and then uses him like Rip Hamilton on offense - running off numerous screens and continues motion.

[dabonett]

Simonefontecchio

[UcanUwill]

Rubio has shown to be significantly more stellar in FIBA than NBA.
Navarro also seemed much better in FIBA than NBA.
On the other hand, I have the impression the athletic style and use of space of Ja Morant and Donovan Mitchell might not translate so good to FIBA. But that's pure speculation, I have no objetive data for that.

Rubio was garbage in Europe for years, if anything it's a complete opposite. He always been elite NBA prospect while at the same time being so not up to par in Europe. 2019 was his redemption story, it was the first time where he looked like he finally learned how to be effective. Most players are better in FIBA simply because the level of competition is worse. Rubio is not that guy at all. Currently yes, but for minority of his career, complete opposite.

Well I had forgotten some episodes of FIBA Rubio where he was not so good. But in FIBA basketball, where scores are lower and there's more control of the game and defense is more relevant, I think Rubio now is ranked higher as a player than in NBA.

He finally figured it out when he turned 29.
But who was Rubio?
Rubio was amazing team and especially one on one defender. Good skill to have in FIBA, but far more valuable in the NBA, since there are more iso and far better individual players to stop.
He was fast non shooter. Being non shooter is bad in both, but especially bad in FIBA. packed paint, no 3 in the key, if you cant shoot in FIBA, you often useless, which he was.
He had amazing handle and vision. Great, but far more valuable in the NBA, where thee more fast breaks, more open spaces etc. Where in FIBA there is far more half court basketball.

Rubio was the guy who sucked. His strengths just wheren't that important in heavily half court FIBA basketball. ANd despite him kinda sucking, everyone drooled over him as NBA prospect, because even him putting bad stats in EUrope, you saw that his handle, passing, defense and athleticism was almost elite even for the NBA.
Till this day we had more casual Euro fans who hate Rubio, because they just thought he is so overrated, they couldn't comprehend how the guy this mediocre gets so much hype.
But its a prime example of talent doesnt translating linerally. Rubio instantly when from Euroleague meh, to ROY candidate in the NBA.
Too bad he blew his knee right away, and NBA 3 point revolution happened almost the same moment as he started his NBA career. SO NBA caught up with international basketball at valuing a 3 ball, so Rubio just got stuck in no mans land. His career was so unfortunate.

[babyjax13]

Markkanen probably wouldn’t get to be the focal point of an offense and put up 29 shots in the NBA. I think this narrative lost most of its steam with Giannis looking like Giannis this time around.

No reason not to, athletic 7 footer capable of shooting and finishing.

After seeing him today, kid has to be first option in Utah, right?

He and Sexton are going to get a chance to reprise the roles they had in their early careers. We'll see if they've grown.

[UcanUwill]

No reason not to, athletic 7 footer capable of shooting and finishing.

After seeing him today, kid has to be first option in Utah, right?

He and Sexton are going to get a chance to reprise the roles they had in their early careers. We'll see if they've grown.

Oh right, I forgot about Sexton. But man, shots Lauri can make, it should translate to the NBA, I dont see how it shouldn't. He destroyed Dario Saric.

[Mavrelous]

Utah is missing a PG badly, if they get a good one, they can utilize Markannen, Sexton and Fontechion, it's not too late to throw the MLE at Micic.