CBS Sports top 22 point guards

shakes0 · Post #1 » by **shakes0** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:21 pm

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-point-guard-rankings-stephen-curry-luka-doncic-battle-for-top-spot-where-does-ben-simmons-land/

They did each position. The link actually brings you to every list in order.

Here is the PG list...

1. Steph
2. Luka
3. Ja
4. Dame
5. Trae
6. CP3
7. harden
8. Jrue
9. Kyrie
10. Jamaal Murray
11. SGA
12. FVV
13. Garland
14. Simmons
15. Lamelo
16. Cade
17. CJ
18. Smart
19. Maxey
20. Haliburton
21. Brunson
22. Fox

Eagle4 · Post #2 » by **Eagle4** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:23 pm

Half of these guys are SGs/point forwards but eh.

Tor_Raps · Post #3 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:24 pm

Never been a fan of point forwards or SGs on this list just because they have playmaking capabilities. Dont think we would put people at Center just because they can rebound well.

Regardless, the PG field has to be the strongest its ever been in the history of the NBA.

shakes0 · Post #4 » by **shakes0** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:30 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:

Regardless, the PG field has to be the strongest its ever been in the history of the NBA.

its crazy to look at it next to the SG list. The SG position has to be the weakest it's been in decades if not forever.

Woodsanity · Post #5 » by **Woodsanity** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:32 pm

Ja is incredibly overrated

Post #6 » by **Duffman100** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:33 pm

I'd flip Dame and CP3. Especially after the season Dame had ( know he was hurt).

I'd also then put CP3 above Morant.

i'd bump FVV and SGA over Irving and Murray for now.

meekrab · Post #7 » by **meekrab** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:38 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Regardless, the PG field has to be the strongest its ever been in the history of the NBA.

PG is always stacked because that's the only position relatively short people (under 6'4") can play without automatically being a liability on defense.

Colbinii · Post #8 » by **Colbinii** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:40 pm

shakes0 wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:

Regardless, the PG field has to be the strongest its ever been in the history of the NBA.

its crazy to look at it next to the SG list. The SG position has to be the weakest it's been in decades if not forever.

That's because we categorize so many players as Point Guards and have realized if you're a good ball handler at the 2 you may as well be a lead ball handler.

Post #9 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:41 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Never been a fan of point forwards or SGs on this list just because they have playmaking capabilities. Dont think we would put people at Center just because they can rebound well.

Seems stupid to call someone who has the ball all the time and initiates all the offense when they are on the court something else just because they are tall.

I mean we didn't say Magic wasn't a PG. Why is it an issue now when more and more players of size are playing the position?

Typically this is an argument used by fans of a smaller PG who want to get some guys kicked off the list so their guy can be higher. Like when Duncan was playing next to Robinson or Rasho but all the KG stans wanted him labeled a center so KG could be the best PF in the league.

Sometimes common sense needs to dictate this.

Post #10 » by **Duffman100** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:43 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Never been a fan of point forwards or SGs on this list just because they have playmaking capabilities. Dont think we would put people at Center just because they can rebound well.

Seems stupid to call someone who has the ball all the time and initiates all the offense when they are on the court something else just because they are tall.

I mean we didn't say Magic wasn't a PG. Why is it an issue now when more and more players of size are playing the position?

Typically this is an argument used by fans of a smaller PG who want to get some guys kicked off the list so their guy can be higher. Like when Duncan was playing next to Robinson or Rasho but all the KG stans wanted him labeled a center so KG could be the best PF in the league.

Sometimes common sense needs to dictate this.

We're also still all stuck in the antiquated 1-5 position ball labels.

I'm 100% sure NBA teams don't even think this way anymore.

Post #11 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:43 pm

meekrab wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Regardless, the PG field has to be the strongest its ever been in the history of the NBA.

PG is always stacked because that's the only position relatively short people (under 6'4") can play without automatically being a liability on defense.

It's not even that. It's simply a numbers game. I remember reading somewhere that at one point something like 15% of everyone on the planet 7 feet or taller would have a swim through the NBA. And with every inch shorter you greatly increase the numbers. Get down to 6 feet or just above and now you have a massive player pool. So naturally it will be easier to find NBA skilled players.

Post #12 » by **bisme37** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:43 pm

Other positions in the article...

SG:
1 Booker
2 Mitchell
3 Lavine
4 Beal
5 Edwards

SF:
1 Kawhi
2 Tatum
3 Butler
4 PG
5 Brown

PF:
1 Giannis
2 KD
3 Bron
4 Zion
5 Towns

Center:
1 Jokic
2 Embiid
3 Davis
4 Gobert
5 Bam

Post #13 » by **Duffman100** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:46 pm

bisme37 wrote:Other positions in the article...

SG:
1 Booker
2 Mitchell
3 Lavine
4 Beal
5 Edwards

SF:
1 Kawhi
2 Tatum
3 Butler
4 PG
5 Brown

PF:
1 Giannis
2 KD
3 Bron
4 Zion
5 Towns

Center:
1 Jokic
2 Embiid
3 Davis
4 Gobert
5 Bam

To me that has to be

4. Towns
5. Siakam

Until Zion proves he can stay healthy.

Pantsman · Post #14 » by **Pantsman** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:46 pm

Garland should be ahead of Murray FVV and SGA

Post #15 » by **Duffman100** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:47 pm

Pantsman wrote:Garland should be ahead of Murray FVV and SGA

Not sure if he should be above FVV considering the defense FVV provides.

They're definitely in the same tier though.

meekrab · Post #16 » by **meekrab** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:53 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
meekrab wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Regardless, the PG field has to be the strongest its ever been in the history of the NBA.

PG is always stacked because that's the only position relatively short people (under 6'4") can play without automatically being a liability on defense.

It's not even that. It's simply a numbers game. I remember reading somewhere that at one point something like 15% of everyone on the planet 7 feet or taller would have a swim through the NBA. And with every inch shorter you greatly increase the numbers. Get down to 6 feet or just above and now you have a massive player pool. So naturally it will be easier to find NBA skilled players.

Yes, that was sort of implied. There's a ton more 6'2" Derrick Roses than 6'8" LeBrons, but there's a lot less market for 6'2" NBA players, so the relative skill level is always highest at the PG spot.

God Squad · Post #17 » by **God Squad** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:57 pm

Incoming triggered fans...

Antinomy · Post #18 » by **Antinomy** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:30 pm

I keep wondering how Brown is listed higher than Middleton on these lists.

cgf · Post #19 » by **cgf** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:13 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Pantsman wrote:Garland should be ahead of Murray FVV and SGA

Not sure if he should be above FVV considering the defense FVV provides.

They're definitely in the same tier though.

They are?

Bologna Smasher · Post #20 » by **Bologna Smasher** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:18 pm

I know Fox struggled most of last year, but putting Brunson over him seems a bit off. Think Brunson can actually get up there with the Knicks, just don't think he's made it to that point yet.