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Steph is in a league of his own, but I do think Bane has higher potential than Klay.

What do you think?

Klay being "2nd best" I assume is based on his shooting volume? There are other guys in the past who could catch and shoot as well as shoot off the dribble at high percentages.

Yes, after Jeremy Lin

Disagree with the premise of this thread.

Love Klay but I have a tough time calling Klay the 2nd best shooter of all time being next to the greatest shooter of all time. Someone who the defense was focused on and innovated in his own right, e.g. a Reggie Miller, will get the #2 nod in my book.

I think we are a bit early in this Bane speculation, lol... but I did think Bane was criminally underrated after facing him in the playoffs last season.

DonaldSanders wrote:Love Klay but I have a tough time calling Klay the 2nd best shooter of all time being next to the greatest shooter of all time. Someone who the defense was focused on and innovated in his own right, e.g. a Reggie Miller, will get the #2 nod in my book.

I think we are a bit early in this Bane speculation, lol... but I did think Bane was criminally underrated after facing him in the playoffs last season.

Bane is insane, he's a career 43% 3 point shooter and a career 88% FT shooter.

He's like a super powered version of Seth curry.

When I watch highlights of him he can get separation and when he launches it, I just have this absolute confidence it's going in. What's telling is that even in the playoffs, his shooting percentages have not gone down one bit.

Fwiw, this is not a thread saying Desmond will go down, it's more of a thread asking do you think he can.

As for Klay, he's the prototypical elite shooter so i'm using him. There are players that can get their shot off easier, or create (Lilard for example) but Klay is the guy I think of that before the injuries had the right mix of volume and efficiency as a shooter over his career. I think Klay deserves to be considered top 5, where in the top 5 is the better question.

As for whose really the 2nd best shooter it's quite the debate. One could say Ray Allen but he's had his truly great and not so great seasons as a shooter. Same with Reggie Miller. Then of course there's Kyrie and KD who haven't had ridiculous seasons shooting, have also been consistent. So outside Steph being the obvious #1, who is really #2 is an interesting debate.

2nd most jacked shooter behind Vinny the Microwave Johnson.

RHODEY wrote:2nd most jacked shooter behind Vinny the Microwave Johnson.

Vinnie was shredded. Great guy too.

I'm very high on Desmond Bane, no clue why he seems to get swept under the rug/disrespected. Last season he was the real MIP.

This season he should be an All Star, I can see him and Ja making multiple All Star teams together for quite a few years.

I mean cmon, he's putting up 25 points 5 assists 5 rebounds on 18 shots a game, what more could you ask for. JJJ gets all the hype (he's good too don't get me wrong). I view Desmond Bane as the 2nd guy in Memphis' young core though.

Lets talk about this again in 5 years.

Vampirate wrote:

DonaldSanders wrote:Love Klay but I have a tough time calling Klay the 2nd best shooter of all time being next to the greatest shooter of all time. Someone who the defense was focused on and innovated in his own right, e.g. a Reggie Miller, will get the #2 nod in my book.

I think we are a bit early in this Bane speculation, lol... but I did think Bane was criminally underrated after facing him in the playoffs last season.

Bane is insane, he's a career 43% 3 point shooter and a career 88% FT shooter.

He's like a super powered version of Seth curry.

When I watch highlights of him he can get separation and when he launches it, I just have this absolute confidence it's going in. What's telling is that even in the playoffs, his shooting percentages have not gone down one bit.

Fwiw, this is not a thread saying Desmond will go down, it's more of a thread asking do you think he can.

As for Klay, he's the prototypical elite shooter so i'm using him. There are players that can get their shot off easier, or create (Lilard for example) but Klay is the guy I think of that before the injuries had the right mix of volume and efficiency as a shooter over his career. I think Klay deserves to be considered top 5, where in the top 5 is the better question.

Gotcha. My answer then is yes, I think he has that ceiling but obviously nowhere near that status yet, having so few years in the league. I don't know if he will stay at this level % wise as he attracts more attention, but his numbers are absolutely eye popping. One thing I noticed in the playoff series vs. the Warriors is that he did better when Ja was out and he got to touch the ball more and take a bigger role. Small sample size, but I think he is at minimum a #2 guy for a contender type.

It's going to be a lot harder though when teams start designing stuff to stop him more.

As for whose really the 2nd best shooter it's quite the debate. One could say Ray Allen but he's had his truly great and not so great seasons as a shooter. Same with Reggie Miller. Then of course there's Kyrie and KD who haven't had ridiculous seasons shooting, have also been consistent. So outside Steph being the obvious #1, who is really #2 is an interesting debate.

Yeah it's a tough debate, that's for sure.

mj234eva wrote:Disagree with the premise of this thread.

Exactly.

"Can" insinuates something that hasn't happened yet.

The better, more accurate title would be "Has Desmond become the 2nd best (or best) shooter of all time."

if he can do it for a decade on and win a bunch of championships like Klay maybe, prob not

Nash, Petrovic

Bane has demonstrated he has the potential to be considered elite.

As for Klay, all the adulation seems unfair when you consider the context. Just Dray “toad” Green has been exposed as being artificially propped by the system, so too has Klay. When you account for Klay’s limited mobility and overall inability to generate his own shot it’s unfair to call him 2nd. It may not even be close

It's within the realm of possibility.

He's been really good from behind the arc so far in his career but it will take years before he can get the title of 2nd best 3pt shooter of all time and much can happen within that time.

IAMZOOTED2 wrote:Bane has demonstrated he has the potential to be considered elite.

As for Klay, all the adulation seems unfair when you consider the context. Just Dray “toad” Green has been exposed as being artificially propped by the system, so too has Klay. When you account for Klay’s limited mobility and overall inability to generate his own shot it’s unfair to call him 2nd. It may not even be close

Bane gets bonus points for having one of the coolest names in the NBA that doesn't need a nickname.

Sure, if he keeps this up for another 10 years, he can be in the conversation with guys like Ray Allen and Kyle Korver.

As a 4-year college player, Bane was old for a rookie. He looks great so far, but has a long way to go to catch Ray Allen (2973 3FG on .400 3FG% over 19 NBA seasons, plus another 385 3FG on .401 3FG% in the playoffs) and Korver (2450 3FG on .429 3FG% over 17 NBA seasons, plus another 254 3FG on .391 3FG% in the playoffs).

Not saying he can't get there, but it's way too early act like he is anywhere close.

Can he, sure.

Is it likely? I don't see it, at all. Second best of the 20s? Good possibility

Ray Allen: am I a joke to you?