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If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 7:45 am
by rocketsfan100
I would’ve gone
Mobley
Cade
Green
To me Mobley has enormous potential …Dude is already one of the most versatile defensive players in the game if not top 3 with Giannis and OG currently and hasn’t even scratched the surface. At 7 feet tall he can virtually guard every position on the floor.
On offense still is a tad raw but you can see the potential with his touch around the basket and can hit the mid range . Additionally he is an underrated passing big . His upside is off the charts
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 8:20 am
by kiwinbafan05
1. Mobley
2. Barnes
3. Cade
4. Green
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 8:21 am
by rocketsfan100
Yes forget about Barnes. True
Mobley
Barnes
Cade
Green
Sounds right
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 8:28 am
by 76ciology
Im not picking a big who can’t be a star on offense over two potential star perimeter players who can shoot, score and create on offense.
What’s Mobley’s ceiling Jaren Jackson Jr.?
You’re taking Jaren Jackson Jr. over two likely 25ppg guards?
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 8:32 am
by rocketsfan100
76ciology wrote:Im not picking a big who can’t be a star on offense over two potential star perimeter players who can shoot, score and create on offense.
What’s Mobley’s ceiling Jaren Jackson Jr.?
You’re taking Jaren Jackson Jr. over two likely 25ppg guards?
His Peake is a the best and most versatile defender in the nba with the potential to be a good multi time defensive player of the year . Jackson can hardly sniff that
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 8:38 am
by 76ciology
rocketsfan100 wrote:76ciology wrote:Im not picking a big who can’t be a star on offense over two potential star perimeter players who can shoot, score and create on offense.
What’s Mobley’s ceiling Jaren Jackson Jr.?
You’re taking Jaren Jackson Jr. over two likely 25ppg guards?
His Peake is a the best and most versatile defender in the nba with the potential to be a good multi time defensive player of the year . Jackson can hardly sniff that
I’d still pick 25ppg perimeter scorers over that. I’d then just surround them with less talented but still good defensive players
Take note that at some point you will have to max the guys you’ve mentioned. I’d rather distribute most of my cap space to my scorers then fill the roster with cheap defensive players.
Look at where Nerlens Noel is right now. Check how hyped he was during his rookie year.
Sixers got Paul Reed. Give him enough opportunity and you can say he is also one of the best and most versatile defenders in the league.
So are Jaden McDaniels or Herb Jones.
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 8:40 am
by BallerTalk
1) Green
2) Mobley
3) Cunningham
4) Barnes
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 9:14 am
by Fencer reregistered
How is Mobley as a screen-setter?
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 9:39 am
by Up-And-Coming
Mobley
Green
Barnes
Sengun
Cade
I personally see Mobley and Green as having the highest ceiling. It's still early for Cade of course but so far I like what I've seen from the others more.
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 10:06 am
by AdamTH21
Franz Wagner deserves to be in this conversation.
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 10:17 am
by Mr Peanut
I can see the merit in considering Mobley given his size and two way talent, but I'm still going Cade.
Once he found his groove last season he averaged 21.1/5.7/6.5 on 46% shooting post all-star break. He didn't rush out the gate this year but clearly his shin injury had affected his play. I believe when he returns if he can eventually develop an above league average three point shot and starts getting to the line more then he'll get into that 25-27ppg range on good efficiency.
If you're picking first in the draft you're looking for a superstar that can:
1. Be the first option on offense
2. Make those around him better
I feel like Jalen Green can fulfil the first and Barnes and Mobley can cover the second but only Cade can do both.
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 11:13 am
by pr0wler
1. Mobley - great versatile defender, decent on offense, scales well in almost any team as a ceiling raiser
2. Green - scoring machine, world class athlete. Potentially low BBIQ and defense, however
3. Wagner - alrdy efficient ~20 PPG scorer. A solid 6'10'' athlete with some point forward sills
4. Cade - not sold on his shooting or athleticism. Still solid potential, however
5. Barnes - great jack of all trades, master of none. Still not sure what position he is on offense, and his outside shot is still a work in progress.
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 11:22 am
by jasonxxx102
Not surprisingly Mobley is a clear #1.
I’m taking Cade, Barnes, Giddey, Franz, maybe Sengun all over Green.
He’s not special
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 11:29 am
by jasonxxx102
Fencer reregistered wrote:How is Mobley as a screen-setter?
Not great
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 11:35 am
by jasonxxx102
If you have Jordan Clarkson as many shots as Green he’d average more points, let that sink in. Oh and he averages as many rebounds and more assists with a better ast/to ratio.
I don’t understand the infatuation with chuckers who don’t do anything else. Not to mention Green is one of the worst defenders in the NBA
“BUT HE TAKES A LOT OF SHOTS AND JUMPS HIGH!!!”
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 12:02 pm
by Maverick41
Imo in today's NBA, 2 way wings who can create for themselves AND for others are the most valuable. Especially in the playoffs. For that reason, I would still take Cade #1.
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 12:08 pm
by TheLand13
76ciology wrote:Im not picking a big who can’t be a star on offense over two potential star perimeter players who can shoot, score and create on offense.
What’s Mobley’s ceiling Jaren Jackson Jr.?
You’re taking Jaren Jackson Jr. over two likely 25ppg guards?
Jaren Jackson Jr? Mobley's ceiling?
You might as well just outright state you're trolling at this point.
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 12:08 pm
by Fencer reregistered
jasonxxx102 wrote:Fencer reregistered wrote:How is Mobley as a screen-setter?
Not great
That lowers my perception of his offensive upside. In general, it speaks negatively to his awareness. In particular, it's not good for his obvious role as a roll man.
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 12:12 pm
by jasonxxx102
Fencer reregistered wrote:jasonxxx102 wrote:Fencer reregistered wrote:How is Mobley as a screen-setter?
Not great
That lowers my perception of his offensive upside. In general, it speaks negatively to his awareness. In particular, it's not good for his obvious role as a roll man.
Screening is something that can be learned over time. I don’t think it has anything to do with awareness, screening is almost entirely technique.
Re: If you could re do the Cade, Green and Mobley draft would you go differently
Posted: Thu Dec 1, 2022 12:14 pm
by jasonxxx102
TheLand13 wrote:76ciology wrote:Im not picking a big who can’t be a star on offense over two potential star perimeter players who can shoot, score and create on offense.
What’s Mobley’s ceiling Jaren Jackson Jr.?
You’re taking Jaren Jackson Jr. over two likely 25ppg guards?
Jaren Jackson Jr? Mobley's ceiling?
You might as well just outright state you're trolling at this point.
He also said (unironically) that Paul Reed is one of the most versatile defenders in the NBA.