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Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 pm
by ShulaDon92
Adam Silver wants a female head coach in the league now. How do you guys feel about that. Is Silver too woke?
There's not even enough female coaches in the WNBA why should we have one in the men's league?
Your thoughts, please...
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:51 pm
by PaulKellerman
If the individual is talented, their gender, age, race, religion is irrelevant. But just having a female HC for the sake of it is silly, IMHO
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 pm
by azcatz11
He should step up and be a leader and hire a female deputy commissioner. Or he should resign and recommend a woman take his place as the commish. Leadership starts from the top
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:54 pm
by CanadianBacon15
I think there will be a female GM before a coach.
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:54 pm
by ShulaDon92
PaulKellerman wrote:If the individual is talented, their gender, age, race, religion is irrelevant. But just having a female HC for the sake of it is silly, IMHO
Has there been a female coach in the WNBA so dominant that she can cross over? I also understand the ideal but as a charity it seems odd with there being a women's league.
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 pm
by kenwood3333
And the purpose of having a female coach is for what? Gender equality?
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:57 pm
by KIRAG
Regardless of gender, if qualified why not. There are male coaches in the WNBA
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:58 pm
by JDR720
What he actually said:
"If I were out looking to hire a coach right now, I'd say there's a market irregularity, there's clearly a bias in the system against women," Silver said. "Now part of it is there's no shortcuts to developing a new pool of candidates, and that's what we're going through now. That's I think why you're seeing, you know, seven female assistants because still you want people to be developed, to come up the ranks, to sort of learn the profession, learn it in the assistant ranks and then work their way up.
"But so, I don't want to put a precise number on it. I'd say, I would be hugely disappointed if, certainly, in five years, we haven't seen our first female head coach in the NBA."
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 pm
by Texas Chuck
This will make all the usual people big mad.
But there is no problem here despite their forthcoming efforts to create one.
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:01 pm
by MrGoat
Silver should stop talking and take action himself then. All he needs to do is transition to female then get good enough at coaching basketball to get hired by an NBA team as a coach
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:02 pm
by MrBigShot
We need a female commissioner
On a serious note, women getting opportunities to head coach in the league would be a good thing. But there will be a lot of political pressure on the time to hire the first woman HC in the NBA. Essentially can't fire her if the team struggles. And any opposing candidates will have people trying to tear them down.
Don't forget, Becky Hammon even being in consideration for the blazers position created a wave of deranged feminists and white knights trying to character assassinate Chauncey Billups for something that nobody even brought up again in his time as a player, or the various times he was rumored to be in discussion for GM positions. Who by the way, is doing a fantastic job right now.
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:03 pm
by orlando_joe
next he will want 40% white guys on every team...oh wait ..it does not work like that...lol
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 pm
by BK_2020
kenwood3333 wrote:And the purpose of having a female coach is for what? Gender equality?
Silver is saying that the reason we don't have a female headcoach is most likely due to systemic bias, and that if teams made rational decisions there should be a female coach in the NBA.
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:08 pm
by JDR720
Texas Chuck wrote:This will make all the usual people big mad.
But there is no problem here despite their forthcoming efforts to create one.
The usual people are going to have a cow over this, which pretty much proves Silver's point.
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:10 pm
by tdotrep2
Huge bias, 1000x more males interested in basketball at that level and only 30 jobs. It'd be nuts not to have a female coach tho... because biases
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:13 pm
by JDR720
MrBigShot wrote:We need a female commissioner
On a serious note, women getting opportunities to head coach in the league would be a good thing. But there will be a lot of political pressure on the time to hire the first woman HC in the NBA. Essentially can't fire her if the team struggles. And any opposing candidates will have people trying to tear them down.
Don't forget, Becky Hammon even being in consideration for the blazers position created a wave of deranged feminists and white knights trying to character assassinate Chauncey Billups for something that nobody even brought up again in his time as a player, or the various times he was rumored to be in discussion for GM positions. Who by the way, is doing a fantastic job right now.
The inverse will happen too, if a team hires a female HC a lot of people will be rooting for her to fail and when she does they'll use that as proof women shouldn't coach non-women sports teams.
So teams will face a lot of pressure to both not hire and not fire them. Which is the biggest reason women aren't going to get any serious chances any time soon.
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:19 pm
by ShulaDon92
JDR720 wrote:What he actually said:
"If I were out looking to hire a coach right now, I'd say there's a market irregularity, there's clearly a bias in the system against women," Silver said. "Now part of it is there's no shortcuts to developing a new pool of candidates, and that's what we're going through now. That's I think why you're seeing, you know, seven female assistants because still you want people to be developed, to come up the ranks, to sort of learn the profession, learn it in the assistant ranks and then work their way up.
"But so, I don't want to put a precise number on it. I'd say, I would be hugely disappointed if, certainly, in five years, we haven't seen our first female head coach in the NBA."
Hes clearly invoking identity politics, so fine. I think it makes more sense to see a successful coach go from wnba to NBA but if he is grooming one for marketing reasons he may sell more tix to little girls, who do like watching the men.
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:20 pm
by tmorgan
You need to be THAT GOOD to be the first at something, so that you don’t fail and potentially close the door for others, and that’s a lot of pressure on that first individual.
Thing is, I think it’s very likely Becky is THAT GOOD. I hope she gets a shot soon. I’d take her for my team next year.
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:24 pm
by monopoman
JDR720 wrote:MrBigShot wrote:We need a female commissioner
On a serious note, women getting opportunities to head coach in the league would be a good thing. But there will be a lot of political pressure on the time to hire the first woman HC in the NBA. Essentially can't fire her if the team struggles. And any opposing candidates will have people trying to tear them down.
Don't forget, Becky Hammon even being in consideration for the blazers position created a wave of deranged feminists and white knights trying to character assassinate Chauncey Billups for something that nobody even brought up again in his time as a player, or the various times he was rumored to be in discussion for GM positions. Who by the way, is doing a fantastic job right now.
The inverse will happen too, if a team hires a female HC a lot of people will be rooting for her to fail and when she does they'll use that as proof women shouldn't coach non-women sports teams.
So teams will face a lot of pressure to both not hire and not fire them. Which is the biggest reason women aren't going to get any serious chances any time soon.
Yep, I was worried if the Blazers hired Becky since it would be a high pressure situation, and any sort of trouble would get a bunch of heavily biased people claiming no woman could ever handle the job.
Crap Chauncey's first season was filled with a lot of problems, and despite that he never had massive hate against him. I think if Becky had the same situation it would have been far worse. I do want to see a female head coach someday, but I think a more low pressure situation of a very young team would work better.
One reason Billups might have gotten the nod over Becky was that Dame was a huge fan of the Billups hire. I don't think Dame was giving them an ultimatum or that he had all the power, but when quite possibly the best player to ever be a Blazer wants a coach over another one you probably listen.
Re: Silver wants a female coach in the league...
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:24 pm
by Optms
I would actually be fine with replacing Silver with a black female commisoner on account of him being trash. Why not.