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DonaldSanders wrote:

eyeatoma wrote:
There is generally a correlation between multi MVP level player and playoff success. By the time you get to 3, these players are in the top 15-20 of NBA history and all have won multiple chips. If the amazing lines don't translate to wins when it matters the most why should it be rewarded. And if he was so good in the regular season, why isn't he able to get those wins in the playoffs? He was able to in the regular season. Why is the planning so good in the playoffs that it can't carry over in the regular season to prevent the Nuggets from winning?

I get what you are saying, Jokic will need playoff success to get true respect. It has to happen or people won't care about his MVPs as much. But people need to just realize, especially in the modern NBA, that the regular season is the least like the post season it has ever been. From load management to refereeing to team efforts, the playoffs have never been more different.

If Jokic deserves the regular season MVP, give it to him. What we really need to do is to change the rules so that we get games more similar to the playoffs in terms of being allowed to actually play defense, get rid of b2bs so stars are playing more, etc.

I think Jokic will eventually get some post-season success so this talk will seem a bit silly, but the RS has become something I just care less about.

Statlanta wrote:

LessEyeTest wrote:Jokic with the game winner, again. Is there anything this man cannot do?!

Average 30 points per game in a month.

Statlanta wrote:

LessEyeTest wrote:Jokic with the game winner, again. Is there anything this man cannot do?!

Average 30 points per game in a month.

p0peye wrote:

Duke4life831 wrote:

CobraCommander wrote:

Arguably it is already happening with Jokić too. He is deferring and missing games, not sure if all of them are due to illness or some have been load management.

Infinite Llamas wrote:

Statlanta wrote:

LessEyeTest wrote:Jokic with the game winner, again. Is there anything this man cannot do?!

Average 30 points per game in a month.

Last year in 15 games for March, he averaged 29.9. Close enough?

Jurassic_Park wrote:Good day for Jokic…. Tatum loses, Doncic loses. Marquee matchup tomorrow Jokic vs Giannis

Johnny Firpo wrote:Jokic is closing in on the 25/11/10 on 70%TS average. That's his average. Absolutely mind-boggling.

nomansland wrote:

p0peye wrote:

Duke4life831 wrote:

Arguably it is already happening with Jokić too. He is deferring and missing games, not sure if all of them are due to illness or some have been load management.

He missed some (4?) because of covid and the past 2 were load management. There's talk of his hamstring bothering him but looking at last night's game he just seems a bit tired.

Doranku wrote:

Johnny Firpo wrote:Jokic is closing in on the 25/11/10 on 70%TS average. That's his average. Absolutely mind-boggling.

He legitimately hasn't had a bad game since October. Not sure if I've ever seen anything like this tbh.

Cubbies2120 wrote:

Jurassic_Park wrote:Good day for Jokic…. Tatum loses, Doncic loses. Marquee matchup tomorrow Jokic vs Giannis

Will be surprised if Jokic plays.

2nd night of b2b after he just missed two straight games due to hamstring... my guess is Nuggets will be down MPJ + Jokic at least.

Exp0sed wrote:

Cubbies2120 wrote:

Jurassic_Park wrote:Good day for Jokic…. Tatum loses, Doncic loses. Marquee matchup tomorrow Jokic vs Giannis

Will be surprised if Jokic plays.

2nd night of b2b after he just missed two straight games due to hamstring... my guess is Nuggets will be down MPJ + Jokic at least.

idk where ur getting this from

When has Jokic been load-managed? when has he sat out on back to backs?

he was injured last couple of games. obviously it was a relatively minor injury and if it were the playoffs he would have played (and taken the risk of aggravaiting the injury) but since it wasn't, they played it safe (as they should)

assuming his hamstring was ok yesterday and will still feel good tonight - he will play

game went down to the wire yesterday, the Bucks at home with Middelton back and Giannis finally healthy - The Nuggets on a b2b, away without MPJ they're probably gonna lose by 15...but Jokic will play imo

he's not sitting out if he's healthy just because of caution or rest - that was my point

Cubbies2120 wrote:

Exp0sed wrote:

Cubbies2120 wrote:

So the line to me implies the books have Jokic out (or are anticipating Murray out maybe).

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CobraCommander wrote:

CharityStripe34 wrote:

CobraCommander wrote:They have 2 months to catch him- but if he doesn’t get hurt I don’t see how they catch him. He is simply playing boringly efficient Tim Duncan/CP3 type ball… makea the right play look routine and makes the amazing play look routine - it’s just boring as hell but effective

If he stays healthy and stops load-managing/missing games, I give Gianni a fair chance at going on a big-time tear. Especially if Middleton stays on the court, looks solid and the Bucks start going on some winning streaks. He's the only other player in the last few seasons who's statistically similar to Jokic and has an incredibly high defensive ceiling to boot.

I'm not predicting that will happen, as it seems that he's been clearly trying to pace himself and the Bucks have been sitting him more often. Just that he's capable and it would make for an incredible MVP race given that both he and Jokic are considered by many the two best players alive.

Fair- but I think Giannis is over the MVP thing- I think he only cares about rings at this point -

and if you think about it, Giannis is right. If Giannis gets 3 or 4 rings and only 2 MVPs he can make a top 10
All time case. If jokic gets 4 MVPs in a row and no rings he is going to be considered less favorable long term than Giannis. Man but we talking about a new golden age with the potential of two (maybe more)all time greats approaching their prime.:. !