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Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:35 pm
by infinite11285
SUPERVILLAIN wrote:What is your expectation for him moving forward? Isaac is 25 years old now.
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Let's try this topic again. This time, without political ideologies.
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:41 pm
by Dirk
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:41 pm
by SSUBluesman
Magic fans, what are the plans for JI going forward? Is he going to get reps in and shake off the rust in the G-League or do they want him getting in game shape practicing with the team?
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:42 pm
by Swish1906
Still Jonathan Bender 2.0
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:51 pm
by madmaxmedia
SSUBluesman wrote:Magic fans, what are the plans for JI going forward? Is he going to get reps in and shake off the rust in the G-League or do they want him getting in game shape practicing with the team?
I'm super happy for the guy, but I imagine he should stay in G-League for a little while to get acclimated again. In the highlights he was able to post up and work on much smaller dudes, but it's gonna be much harder on an NBA court.
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:58 pm
by Wallace_Wallace
Good for him, I hope he stays healthy on the court.
It does make me wondering, how severe was the ACL tear? Like Shaun Livingston bad?
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:59 pm
by basketballRob
madmaxmedia wrote:SSUBluesman wrote:Magic fans, what are the plans for JI going forward? Is he going to get reps in and shake off the rust in the G-League or do they want him getting in game shape practicing with the team?
I'm super happy for the guy, but I imagine he should stay in G-League for a little while to get acclimated again. In the highlights he was able to post up and work on much smaller dudes, but it's gonna be much harder on an NBA court.
He's never had a post-up game.
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Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:02 pm
by madmaxmedia
basketballRob wrote:madmaxmedia wrote:SSUBluesman wrote:Magic fans, what are the plans for JI going forward? Is he going to get reps in and shake off the rust in the G-League or do they want him getting in game shape practicing with the team?
I'm super happy for the guy, but I imagine he should stay in G-League for a little while to get acclimated again. In the highlights he was able to post up and work on much smaller dudes, but it's gonna be much harder on an NBA court.
He's never had a post-up game.
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Right. I mainly meant he looked great for not having played in awhile, but let him run with G-League level players for awhile first- shooting over smaller guys, running by slower bigs, etc.
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:14 pm
by basketballRob
madmaxmedia wrote:basketballRob wrote:madmaxmedia wrote:
I'm super happy for the guy, but I imagine he should stay in G-League for a little while to get acclimated again. In the highlights he was able to post up and work on much smaller dudes, but it's gonna be much harder on an NBA court.
He's never had a post-up game.
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Right. I mainly meant he looked great for not having played in awhile, but let him run with G-League level players for awhile first- shooting over smaller guys, running by slower bigs, etc.
He looks a long way from being at game speed for the NBA. I wouldn't be surprised if it's after the all-star break before he joins the team.
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Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:24 pm
by cupcakesnake
basketballRob wrote:madmaxmedia wrote:basketballRob wrote:He's never had a post-up game.
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Right. I mainly meant he looked great for not having played in awhile, but let him run with G-League level players for awhile first- shooting over smaller guys, running by slower bigs, etc.
He looks a long way from being at game speed for the NBA. I wouldn't be surprised if it's after the all-star break before he joins the team.
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Even imagining the best/quickest recovery, what would you imagine his chances are of cracking the rotation? Is he taking minutes from Bol Bol and Mo Bamba? Or is he sliding into the minutes that were occupied by Okeke and then Mo Wagner?
What do you think is his role on this Fran/Paolo team?
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:29 pm
by GeorgeSears
If he can play defense the way he did prior to his injury, he'll be very valuable for a championship contenders. After this season, he'll have two years left on his contract, which is only $17M/year.
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:32 pm
by Lockdown504090
they should leave him there for a while. throwing him into the fire when he wasnt ready is what got him in this situation, i hope ORl is more cautious this time.
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:34 pm
by basketballRob
cupcakesnake wrote:basketballRob wrote:madmaxmedia wrote:
Right. I mainly meant he looked great for not having played in awhile, but let him run with G-League level players for awhile first- shooting over smaller guys, running by slower bigs, etc.
He looks a long way from being at game speed for the NBA. I wouldn't be surprised if it's after the all-star break before he joins the team.
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Even imagining the best/quickest recovery, what would you imagine his chances are of cracking the rotation? Is he taking minutes from Bol Bol and Mo Bamba? Or is he sliding into the minutes that were occupied by Okeke and then Mo Wagner?
What do you think is his role on this Fran/Paolo team?
Bamba is likely going to be traded after the 15th. Once he's in shape, I could see him replacing Bol in the starting lineup.
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Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:37 pm
by ItsDanger
Looks sluggish in the video, to be expected. Orlando has got so many interesting possibilities moving forward.
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:42 pm
by jonbob17
What are my expectations now?
After 15 Lakeland minutes, i am back to pre-bubble JI expectations. Peak year averages 18pts 6 Rebs 2 Steals 2.5 Blocks. Multiple DPOY. In the playoffs teams are going to have to kneel to JI.
Also, fully aware that he might not make it through the rest of this season unscathed.
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:47 pm
by basketballRob
Even if he starts, I doubt he ever plays more that 20-25 mpg.
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Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:48 pm
by Harry Garris
Swish1906 wrote:Still Jonathan Bender 2.0
Nah, John Isaac is legitimately good defensively when he can stay on the court. Bender didn’t provide anything other than highlight dunks.
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:50 pm
by Nyce_1
SSUBluesman wrote:Magic fans, what are the plans for JI going forward? Is he going to get reps in and shake off the rust in the G-League or do they want him getting in game shape practicing with the team?
Plans are TBD (to us fans) at the moment. He 100% practiced with the NBA team twice last week. There's some internal debate on if he'll play another Lakeland game this weekend. The NBA team is back from the West coast on Monday and won't play again until Friday (1/20). With 2 more practices scheduled, fans are hoping for a season debut that Friday.
We'll see. They asked him after the game and he said not sure if he'll play 1 more Lakeland game or how they'll handle it after the weekend.
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:52 pm
by Nyce_1
Wallace_Wallace wrote:Good for him, I hope he stays healthy on the court.
It does make me wondering, how severe was the ACL tear? Like Shaun Livingston bad?
It was an ACL + Meniscus tear. Then as he neared return last season, hamstring tear that needed surgery.
Re: Jonathan Isaac's first game in 892 days (Pt II)
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:56 pm
by ItsDanger
There was some contract guarantee angle about Jan 10th. Forget the details but was predictable that he'd return shortly afterwards.