Lalouie wrote:TheLand13 wrote:Dutchball97 wrote:
this is insane. he had to do everything because he was on a sh***y team. but yes if he had better teammates he wouldn't have had to do as much,,,so you're going to crucify him for being on a bad team??!! LMAO - so be dismissive of a legendary player. if you want to denegrate some of lesser talent then do so as they struggle to validate themselves,,,but you if want to besmirch a LEGEND then do so whilst appearing stupid for all to see
you are better off if you simply look at his skillset. he was f*****ing unique and great at it. his accomplishments from high school to college to pros says so. he practically invented the word skillset
Sorry, but I'm not going to buy the "he was on a terrible team" excuse when I watched a 22 year old LeBron James carry a terrible team to the NBA Finals in my freshmen (edit: I'm an idiot, it was my senior year of high school). Again, Oscar missed the postseason four times in his prime. There's no defending that.
Dutchball97 wrote:Oscar missing the play-offs = inexcusable
Curry missing the play-offs in 2021 = not even worth a mention
Also if you think 2022 wasn't a strong supporting cast I'm starting to doubt whether you ever even look past the 2nd or 3rd best player on a team.
Good job, you're good at framing someone's posts. I think I made it pretty clear that it has a lot more to do with Oscar doing it on FOUR different occasions in his prime. That's a hell of a lot worse than someone doing it one time in a season where two of his all star teammates were out with injury, especially since he went on to win the finals the following season anyways so uh... yeah, I don't want to hear it.
And if you have any doubts about whether or not I look past the 2nd or 3rd best player on a team, you can simply go to the thread "teams with the weakest supporting casts" and see for yourself. And if you still are having doubts after reading my posts in that thread, then you aren't worth my time responding to.
lambchop wrote:Yea but if the number accolades, rings etc. is just way less than those of others who are in the conversation, it becomes difficult to have said player firmly in the top 10 OR it opens up the whole Kawhi style GOAT conversation where even a span of 10-30 games is enough to have a player in the top 10 all time or maybe even as the greatest of all time.
Curry has 4 rings with a FMVP, multiple MVP's (including the only unanimous MVP season), multiple all team selections, multiple NBA records, one of which probably will never be broken, and he is considered the greatest shooter of all time. Hell he even has a steals title. This is a resume that stacks up pretty damn well with the other all time greats trying to inch into that top ten spot.