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Greater Accomplishment: Lebron's 4 or Duncan's 5?

Wait...what?

Duncan stayed on one team.

Now look at that team.

Is this a serious question?

The guy who won all his rings with one franchise, which went to crap after he retired or the guy who ring whore'd his whole career trying to create superteam after superteam lol.

Ummm... gee I wonder lol

Tim Duncan won 5 rings while playing with significantly less talent that anyone with comparable accolades. I love TP and Manu but let's be real, they were probably never top 15 players in the league at the same time as Duncan. And Tim never had to team up with anyone else or force his team to acquiesce to his will. This is easily Timothy Theodore Duncan imo

James gamed the system to get rings.
Duncan was a leader and perhaps the most coachable superstar of all time. Duncan's accomplishment was far greater

The one who was the clear cut best player for all of his rings. The one with more FMVPs. The better player.

Bornstellar wrote:Tim Duncan won 5 rings while playing with significantly less talent that anyone with comparable accolades. I love TP and Manu but let's be real, they were probably never top 15 players in the league at the same time as Duncan. And Tim never had to team up with anyone else or force his team to acquiesce to his will. This is easily Timothy Theodore Duncan imo

not easily. 2 of them werent the hardest rings for tim to get individually. in 2007 and 2014 he was not the best player on his team in the series. and lebron accounts for quite a few of the greatest finals perfomances in league history even still. The guy beat the freaking warriors after they steamrolled the whole league for over a year and a half. then the guy wins fmvp at 35 years old.

I still say tim because he had to go through some really good teams to get to the finals, and he only lost there once or twice maybe, but lebrons done some crazy stuff too.

Anybody find it ironic that media/fans bring up Jordan's Finals record when comparing him to the other greats but then just dismiss Duncan's Finals record when it comes to ranking him to others. Duncan actually has a better Finals record than Lebron, Kobe, and Shaq but you rarely hear anybody cite that as reason why he should be ranked over all of them. Odd.

Timmy's

He's the model person that we all should look up to.

I take Barkley´s 0 over LeBron´s 4. But, I am not biggest fan of LeBron as you might guess.

Timmy is love and LeBron is hated so the outcome of this is not surprising.

If you took both of their names away I think it's hands down LeBron.

3 different teams, carried way more of the load than Tim, unquestioned best player for every ring. One of the titles was taking down the single greatest regular season team in NBA history after being down 3-1.

I know people on here can't separate their personal gripes from actual basketball.

I think this comparison is insulting Duncan.

Lockdown504090 wrote:

Bornstellar wrote:Tim Duncan won 5 rings while playing with significantly less talent that anyone with comparable accolades. I love TP and Manu but let's be real, they were probably never top 15 players in the league at the same time as Duncan. And Tim never had to team up with anyone else or force his team to acquiesce to his will. This is easily Timothy Theodore Duncan imo

not easily. 2 of them werent the hardest rings for tim to get individually. in 2007 and 2014 he was not the best player on his team in the series. and lebron accounts for quite a few of the greatest finals perfomances in league history even still. The guy beat the freaking warriors after they steamrolled the whole league for over a year and a half. then the guy wins fmvp at 35 years old.

I still say tim because he had to go through some really good teams to get to the finals, and he only lost there once or twice maybe, but lebrons done some crazy stuff too.

Duncan was the best player in the league in 2007, of course he was the best player on the spurs!

Lockdown504090 wrote:

Bornstellar wrote:Tim Duncan won 5 rings while playing with significantly less talent that anyone with comparable accolades. I love TP and Manu but let's be real, they were probably never top 15 players in the league at the same time as Duncan. And Tim never had to team up with anyone else or force his team to acquiesce to his will. This is easily Timothy Theodore Duncan imo

not easily. 2 of them werent the hardest rings for tim to get individually. in 2007 and 2014 he was not the best player on his team in the series. and lebron accounts for quite a few of the greatest finals perfomances in league history even still. The guy beat the freaking warriors after they steamrolled the whole league for over a year and a half. then the guy wins fmvp at 35 years old.

I still say tim because he had to go through some really good teams to get to the finals, and he only lost there once or twice maybe, but lebrons done some crazy stuff too.

Nah, he definitely was the best player in 2007 and 2014. Doesn't matter if he didn't win Finals MVP or whatever, he was still by far SA's best and most impactful player. And don't forget he was 30 seconds away from winning his 4th Finals MVP at 37

jasonxxx102 wrote:Timmy is love and LeBron is hated so the outcome of this is not surprising.

If you took both of their names away I think it's hands down LeBron.

3 different teams, carried way more of the load than Tim, unquestioned best player for every ring. One of the titles was taking down the single greatest regular season team in NBA history after being down 3-1.

I know people on here can't separate their personal gripes from actual basketball.

Or maybe people respect the guy who didn't jump ship to form superteams en route to his rings? Give me a break dude

I'll give him 2016, which was one of the most individually impressive rings ever won. But 2012, superteam facing an experienced Thunder team, 2013 was a Ray Allen shot away from losing, and 2020 was the Bubble ring where AD was arguably better in the run than LBJ. it's not as black and white as you're making it

dhsilv2 wrote:

Lockdown504090 wrote:

Bornstellar wrote:Tim Duncan won 5 rings while playing with significantly less talent that anyone with comparable accolades. I love TP and Manu but let's be real, they were probably never top 15 players in the league at the same time as Duncan. And Tim never had to team up with anyone else or force his team to acquiesce to his will. This is easily Timothy Theodore Duncan imo

not easily. 2 of them werent the hardest rings for tim to get individually. in 2007 and 2014 he was not the best player on his team in the series. and lebron accounts for quite a few of the greatest finals perfomances in league history even still. The guy beat the freaking warriors after they steamrolled the whole league for over a year and a half. then the guy wins fmvp at 35 years old.

I still say tim because he had to go through some really good teams to get to the finals, and he only lost there once or twice maybe, but lebrons done some crazy stuff too.

Duncan was the best player in the league in 2007, of course he was the best player on the spurs!

Tony outperformed him in the finals imo, but that could be due to the opponent being so much lesser

Lockdown504090 wrote:

dhsilv2 wrote:

Lockdown504090 wrote:not easily. 2 of them werent the hardest rings for tim to get individually. in 2007 and 2014 he was not the best player on his team in the series. and lebron accounts for quite a few of the greatest finals perfomances in league history even still. The guy beat the freaking warriors after they steamrolled the whole league for over a year and a half. then the guy wins fmvp at 35 years old.

I still say tim because he had to go through some really good teams to get to the finals, and he only lost there once or twice maybe, but lebrons done some crazy stuff too.

Duncan was the best player in the league in 2007, of course he was the best player on the spurs!

Tony outperformed him in the finals imo, but that could be due to the opponent being so much lesser

TP averaged more points and Tim did not shoot well (Cavs were a great defensive team with some solid front court defenders) but Tim outrebounded TP, out-assisted him, lead in steals and blocks. Tim Duncan was easily the best player for SA in that series, TP just torched Boobie Gibson on the offensive end and averaged more PPG.

I wonder how many more rings Tim would have if he had played with guys like Wade, Bosh, Irving, Love, and Davis throughout his career

I don't recall Duncan colluding with other stars or forcing his team to trade away the future for immediate gratification, so I'll say Duncan in a landslide.

LeBron, easily. Look at the road he took and the competition he faced. Duncan was carried for two of his titles (07 and 14). Heck in 2007 didn't he shoot < 40% from the field in the Finals? Meanwhile LeBron always raises his game to another level the deeper he goes.

LeBron's 4 are more impactful than Jordan's 6 IMO. Harder competition, more obstacles, etc.