Jonathan Kuminga

[Hoopstar23]

We need to start talking about him over the last couple of games, he's really been turning it on making a sizable jump.. and he's only 20?

everything has improved the shooting the handles and confidence... could be a potential X factor in the playoffs, what is his ceiling?

[Duke4life831]

In all honesty I think he and GS are at a weird crossroads. Dont get me wrong I loved the pick when they took him and I still do like the pick. But I do think Kuminga is pretty close to being at the point where he kind of just needs an unlimited leash. Once Curry and Wiggins come back, I dont see Kuminga still getting 25+ minutes. I think if Kuminga is to get to his ceiling, he needs to be locked in as a starter or someone who is getting 30+ minutes a night and you just live with the bumps and bruises that come along the way. And I just dont see that happening with this GS roster (this year or most likely next year as well). I do think he can be somewhat of an x factor in the playoffs (mainly with his on ball defense). But ya Im not sure he can reach full potential with this GS team.

[ThatBoyNick]

Kum Bucket!

[HiRez]

He just needs minutes. Has to work on his positioning and aggressiveness on rebounding (even though he had 7 tonight) and his handles are still pretty shaky. Once he learns how to make moves instinctually instead of thinking about it, he's going to be a beast. Has a pretty good knack for drawing fouls so improving his FT% is important. Lately he's been finding downhill lanes better and starting to refine his 8-12 foot turnaround jumper, which could be a tough move for anyone to defend since he's quick enough to create space pretty easily. When guys start overplaying that jumper, he's long and quick and has pretty good wrap-around and reach to the rim moves.

Defensively he just has to work on help defense, his on-ball D is already pretty good. Sometimes he over helps inside and leaves players on the perimeter open to shoot or drive, although that's part of Kerr's system this year, all the Warriors are doing it (consequence of having to compensate for lack of frontline size), so not really his fault.

As for the playoffs, it's Kerr and he hates young guys, doesn't trust them, so I don't expect to see Kuminga get more than 10-12 minutes often. Maybe next year. If Kerr isn't playing him 25+ minutes a game next year, they're going to lose him.

[nfmos]

In all honesty I think he and GS are at a weird crossroads. Dont get me wrong I loved the pick when they took him and I still do like the pick. But I do think Kuminga is pretty close to being at the point where he kind of just needs an unlimited leash. Once Curry and Wiggins come back, I dont see Kuminga still getting 25+ minutes. I think if Kuminga is to get to his ceiling, he needs to be locked in as a starter or someone who is getting 30+ minutes a night and you just live with the bumps and bruises that come along the way. And I just dont see that happening with this GS roster (this year or most likely next year as well). I do think he can be somewhat of an x factor in the playoffs (mainly with his on ball defense). But ya Im not sure he can reach full potential with this GS team.

I disagree, i think the coolest thing has been seeing him become so consistent even with non starter minutes. His time is coming, but his game flows so much better within the team framework now instead of him forcing plays like he was and that has made him such a better player. Hes like Kahwi when he was coming up behind the stars in SA, and that didnt seem to hold back Kahwi's career that much. He is learning so much more from veterans that play the game right than he would just balling out on a losing team.

[Flash Falcon X]

According to RealGM posters, Kuminga was already a bust since he was 19 years old getting limited playing time behind experienced veterans on a championship team last season.

And this year since Kuminga turned 20, he’s even more of a bust because he’s not already an All-Star before being of legal drinking age. Kuminga is not an elite shooter omg what a bust.

We’ve had threads on Kuminga before. Per the posters here, Warriors were dumb to draft him. We don’t care that he’s young, we already know that he’s going to be a bust.

[Flash Falcon X]

In all honesty I think he and GS are at a weird crossroads. Dont get me wrong I loved the pick when they took him and I still do like the pick. But I do think Kuminga is pretty close to being at the point where he kind of just needs an unlimited leash. Once Curry and Wiggins come back, I dont see Kuminga still getting 25+ minutes. I think if Kuminga is to get to his ceiling, he needs to be locked in as a starter or someone who is getting 30+ minutes a night and you just live with the bumps and bruises that come along the way. And I just dont see that happening with this GS roster (this year or most likely next year as well). I do think he can be somewhat of an x factor in the playoffs (mainly with his on ball defense). But ya Im not sure he can reach full potential with this GS team.

Kuminga just turned 20. Not like he’s in his prime wasting his career away. Draymond is getting older. The timing is right for Kuminga’s timeline.

People are accustomed to young guys on crappy teams putting up numbers but the good thing with Kuminga is he’s shown patience in the process and is taking advantage of learning from the vets. He has enthusiasm with the development, unlike some young guys who are egotistic and have no patience. He already mentioned how he’s been getting influenced on the defensive end by Draymond, Wiggins and Iggy and their work ethic—his goal is to be one of the best defenders in the league.

[michaelm]

In all honesty I think he and GS are at a weird crossroads. Dont get me wrong I loved the pick when they took him and I still do like the pick. But I do think Kuminga is pretty close to being at the point where he kind of just needs an unlimited leash. Once Curry and Wiggins come back, I dont see Kuminga still getting 25+ minutes. I think if Kuminga is to get to his ceiling, he needs to be locked in as a starter or someone who is getting 30+ minutes a night and you just live with the bumps and bruises that come along the way. And I just dont see that happening with this GS roster (this year or most likely next year as well). I do think he can be somewhat of an x factor in the playoffs (mainly with his on ball defense). But ya Im not sure he can reach full potential with this GS team.

I disagree, i think the coolest thing has been seeing him become so consistent even with non starter minutes. His time is coming, but his game flows so much better within the team framework now instead of him forcing plays like he was and that has made him such a better player. Hes like Kahwi when he was coming up behind the stars in SA, and that didnt seem to hold back Kahwi's career that much. He is learning so much more from veterans that play the game right than he would just balling out on a losing team.

Maybe GSW actually know what they are doing and are bringing him along just right given his age when he started with them.

[SpreeS]

Playing with Curry/Green/Iggy/Kerr is so more important for your career than get more min in Houston/Detroit or on similar teams. He will be good

[Papi_swav]

Gerald Wallace

[SpreeChokeJob]

I can see a path where he becomes Kawhi like, but it will take a lot of work to get there. Already his floor is close to Wiggins at age 20.

[Revived]

According to RealGM posters, Kuminga was already a bust since he was 19 years old getting limited playing time behind experienced veterans on a championship team last season.

And this year since Kuminga turned 20, he’s even more of a bust because he’s not already an All-Star before being of legal drinking age. Kuminga is not an elite shooter omg what a bust.

We’ve had threads on Kuminga before. Per the posters here, Warriors were dumb to draft him. We don’t care that he’s young, we already know that he’s going to be a bust.

Eh those same posters said James Wiseman was a bust too so I guess their batting 50%

[Mr Peanut]

Playing with Curry/Green/Iggy/Kerr is so more important for your career than get more min in Houston/Detroit or on similar teams. He will be good

Can't argue with that, worked out so well for Wiseman.

[Dan Z]

How has their other young player (Moses Moody) been playing?

[whatisacenter]

How has their other young player (Moses Moody) been playing?

He hasn’t. Playing time for the young players has been sparse. Kuminga is carving out a nice role with his point of attack defense.

[The-Power]

In all honesty I think he and GS are at a weird crossroads. Dont get me wrong I loved the pick when they took him and I still do like the pick. But I do think Kuminga is pretty close to being at the point where he kind of just needs an unlimited leash. Once Curry and Wiggins come back, I dont see Kuminga still getting 25+ minutes. I think if Kuminga is to get to his ceiling, he needs to be locked in as a starter or someone who is getting 30+ minutes a night and you just live with the bumps and bruises that come along the way. And I just dont see that happening with this GS roster (this year or most likely next year as well). I do think he can be somewhat of an x factor in the playoffs (mainly with his on ball defense). But ya Im not sure he can reach full potential with this GS team.

I disagree. Kuminga with a long leash has looked horrible every step of the way. I vividly remember Kuminga with the Ignite team. And with the SCW. And with the main team when they rested everyone. He was lazy on the court and happy to just chuck along inefficiently. The best thing to happen to him is playing for a team where he needs to earn every minute and is held accountable; where he earns minutes based on defense, hustle and keeping it simple, and not scoring a bunch of points.

We have seen growth from Kuminga, especially when it comes to defensive effort, defensive consistency, and shot selection when playing next to superior offensive players. The development is happening, and I see no reason why it would stop now. Kuminga is still way too limited on the ball to be gifted a primary offensive role. He continues to be in a great spot for his development, and it's not like he's approaching his prime or being glued to the bench. But I'm also not at all a believer in the idea that it's best for players to develop on bad teams in roles they have not earned yet. Indeed, I think it's often detrimental to their development.

[Dubnation]

According to RealGM posters, Kuminga was already a bust since he was 19 years old getting limited playing time behind experienced veterans on a championship team last season.

And this year since Kuminga turned 20, he’s even more of a bust because he’s not already an All-Star before being of legal drinking age. Kuminga is not an elite shooter omg what a bust.

We’ve had threads on Kuminga before. Per the posters here, Warriors were dumb to draft him. We don’t care that he’s young, we already know that he’s going to be a bust.

Eh those same posters said James Wiseman was a bust too so I guess their batting 50%

You should lower that percentage. Those same posters preach that 'kLaY is wAsHeD.

[Pointgod]

Kum Bucket!

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[BostonCouchGM]

Kuminga has all the talent in the world but awful BBIQ and an inconsistent motor. He really does just needs to play and get reps but they're a team that is trying to win championships so when he continuously shows he's not ready they have to listen. Missed defensive assignments, ugly bricks, not running back in transition, etc. I think the Warriors should plan on him being the starter next year and move off of Wiggins though, no matter if they win the championship or not. He should be ready by then

[Impuniti]

In all honesty I think he and GS are at a weird crossroads. Dont get me wrong I loved the pick when they took him and I still do like the pick. But I do think Kuminga is pretty close to being at the point where he kind of just needs an unlimited leash. Once Curry and Wiggins come back, I dont see Kuminga still getting 25+ minutes. I think if Kuminga is to get to his ceiling, he needs to be locked in as a starter or someone who is getting 30+ minutes a night and you just live with the bumps and bruises that come along the way. And I just dont see that happening with this GS roster (this year or most likely next year as well). I do think he can be somewhat of an x factor in the playoffs (mainly with his on ball defense). But ya Im not sure he can reach full potential with this GS team.

If you're good enough, you will get your minutes. Poole has proven that in a system that has Steph & Klay. He should still be able to average 20MPG even once the starters are back.