2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)

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Who wins?

Nuggets in 4
15
11%
Nuggets in 5
41
30%
Nuggets in 6
21
16%
Nuggets in 7
18
13%
Suns in 6
20
15%
Suns in 7
20
15%
 
Total votes: 135

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2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#1 » by bisme37 » Wed May 3, 2023 7:35 pm

Game 1: Nuggets win 125-107
Game 2: Nuggets win 97-87
Game 3: Suns win 121-114
Game 4: Suns win 129-124
Game 5: Tuesday May 9 at 10pm ET on TNT

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Post#2 » by spanishninja » Wed May 3, 2023 7:42 pm

there...really is no reason to keep discussing this series. Just counting the days until Cancun at this point.
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Post#3 » by nikster » Wed May 3, 2023 7:42 pm

If CP3 is out Nuggets have a chance at a sweep, think 5 is most likely tho. Really dont think Suns can overcome that lack of depth
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Post#4 » by Bank Shot » Wed May 3, 2023 7:48 pm

Should be a sweep if Paul is out. Probably just a five-game series if he's in.
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Post#5 » by UcanUwill » Wed May 3, 2023 7:49 pm

I know it is easy to talk now, but series aint over, so maybe I will be wrong, but why were Suns favorites in this? Man is Jokic still not respected or what, it is crazy? I am not at all surprised Nuggets are 2-0 now, when I heard Ringer guys say Suns are favorites, I really wanted to go and bet on Nuggets, I was just too lazy and now regret it.

I think these two are probably the most talented teams in the whole Play offs left standing, but Suns werent better than Nuggets before this started, Nuggets were always the favorite in the West.
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (DEN leads 2-0) 

Post#6 » by spanishninja » Wed May 3, 2023 8:13 pm

UcanUwill wrote:I know it is easy to talk now, but series aint over, so maybe I will be wrong, but why were Suns favorites in this? Man is Jokic still not respected or what, it is crazy? I am not at all surprised Nuggets are 2-0 now, when I heard Ringer guys say Suns are favorites, I really wanted to go and bet on Nuggets, I was just too lazy and now regret it.

I think these two are probably the most talented teams in the whole Play offs left standing, but Suns werent better than Nuggets before this started, Nuggets were always the favorite in the West.


I think with the Nuggets, it was a case of "prove it" from the media. Overestimated the importance of one guy who has previously done it all. So far though, Denver is proving it pretty convincingly. Certainly want them to knock off the Lakers or Warriors after this.
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Post#7 » by Richard Miller » Wed May 3, 2023 8:20 pm

bisme37 wrote:Game 3: Thursday May 4 at 10pm ET on ESPN


Friday May 5 not Thursday
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (DEN leads 2-0) 

Post#8 » by UcanUwill » Wed May 3, 2023 8:21 pm

spanishninja wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:I know it is easy to talk now, but series aint over, so maybe I will be wrong, but why were Suns favorites in this? Man is Jokic still not respected or what, it is crazy? I am not at all surprised Nuggets are 2-0 now, when I heard Ringer guys say Suns are favorites, I really wanted to go and bet on Nuggets, I was just too lazy and now regret it.

I think these two are probably the most talented teams in the whole Play offs left standing, but Suns werent better than Nuggets before this started, Nuggets were always the favorite in the West.


I think with the Nuggets, it was a case of "prove it" from the media. Overestimated the importance of one guy who has previously done it all. So far though, Denver is proving it pretty convincingly. Certainly want them to knock off the Lakers or Warriors after this.


I know that American NBA Mainstream media is asinine, but I dont think they can dictate global betting odds? I know Durant is awesome, but he is kind off very old, he was demolished last year so he aint a guarantee golden boy, team struggled against CLippers skeleton crew, lots of talent, but how are they perceived favorites in this series, Nuggets are rolling, I am sorry.
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (DEN leads 2-0) 

Post#9 » by cjx » Wed May 3, 2023 8:36 pm

King Joker :king: and the Nuggets will go up 3-0,

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King Joker will drop 46 pts, 20 rebs, 7 asts and 1 stl,

Nuggets in 5!!
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Post#10 » by Jadoogar » Wed May 3, 2023 8:40 pm

UcanUwill wrote:I know it is easy to talk now, but series aint over, so maybe I will be wrong, but why were Suns favorites in this? Man is Jokic still not respected or what, it is crazy? I am not at all surprised Nuggets are 2-0 now, when I heard Ringer guys say Suns are favorites, I really wanted to go and bet on Nuggets, I was just too lazy and now regret it.

I think these two are probably the most talented teams in the whole Play offs left standing, but Suns werent better than Nuggets before this started, Nuggets were always the favorite in the West.


The odds were probably skewed by public betting. People know KD, Booker, CP more than the Nuggets guys. And it's kind of understandable, in the playoffs, superstars matter more than depth.

But people underestimate Jokic as well as the supporting cast. Nuggets don't have the names but they are clearly much deeper and the role guys know what they are supposed to do.

Suns still have a chance because KD is a superstar and Booker is playing like a superstar but without CP, i'm not sure those 2 guys can carry such a heavy load in minutes and ball handling duties.
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (DEN leads 2-0) 

Post#11 » by spanishninja » Wed May 3, 2023 8:40 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:I know it is easy to talk now, but series aint over, so maybe I will be wrong, but why were Suns favorites in this? Man is Jokic still not respected or what, it is crazy? I am not at all surprised Nuggets are 2-0 now, when I heard Ringer guys say Suns are favorites, I really wanted to go and bet on Nuggets, I was just too lazy and now regret it.

I think these two are probably the most talented teams in the whole Play offs left standing, but Suns werent better than Nuggets before this started, Nuggets were always the favorite in the West.


I think with the Nuggets, it was a case of "prove it" from the media. Overestimated the importance of one guy who has previously done it all. So far though, Denver is proving it pretty convincingly. Certainly want them to knock off the Lakers or Warriors after this.


I know that American NBA Mainstream media is asinine, but I dont think they can dictate global betting odds? I know Durant is awesome, but he is kind off very old, he was demolished last year so he aint a guarantee golden boy, team struggled against CLippers skeleton crew, lots of talent, but how are they perceived favorites in this series, Nuggets are rolling, I am sorry.


no need to be sorry, I agreed with you! if you talk about betting odds, that's worth even less of a discussion because we all know that bettors aren't sports experts.
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Post#12 » by Benedict_Boozer » Wed May 3, 2023 8:54 pm

Bring out the brooms y’all.
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Post#13 » by Sharkboy242 » Wed May 3, 2023 9:07 pm

cjx wrote:King Joker :king: and the Nuggets will go up 3-0,

Mile High Might, fam,

King Joker will drop 46 pts, 20 rebs, 7 asts and 1 stl,

Nuggets in 5!!

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Post#14 » by BruttoNostra » Wed May 3, 2023 9:28 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:I know it is easy to talk now, but series aint over, so maybe I will be wrong, but why were Suns favorites in this? Man is Jokic still not respected or what, it is crazy? I am not at all surprised Nuggets are 2-0 now, when I heard Ringer guys say Suns are favorites, I really wanted to go and bet on Nuggets, I was just too lazy and now regret it.

I think these two are probably the most talented teams in the whole Play offs left standing, but Suns werent better than Nuggets before this started, Nuggets were always the favorite in the West.


I think with the Nuggets, it was a case of "prove it" from the media. Overestimated the importance of one guy who has previously done it all. So far though, Denver is proving it pretty convincingly. Certainly want them to knock off the Lakers or Warriors after this.


I know that American NBA Mainstream media is asinine, but I dont think they can dictate global betting odds? I know Durant is awesome, but he is kind off very old, he was demolished last year so he aint a guarantee golden boy, team struggled against CLippers skeleton crew, lots of talent, but how are they perceived favorites in this series, Nuggets are rolling, I am sorry.

Instead.. the do dictate the betting odds through convincing their audience. Betting isn't about the probability of the outcomes, instead it's reflecting the state where the "house" won't lose any money.

Back to the topic - both media and casuals saw big names on one team, that's all. Those stars are some of the best iso players in the league, but their team game is just awful. People love to crap on coach Malone (including myself), but he's clearly outcouching Monty here. As much as I admire Jokic, he has the better coach in this match up as well.
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (DEN leads 2-0) 

Post#15 » by UcanUwill » Wed May 3, 2023 9:31 pm

BruttoNostra wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
I think with the Nuggets, it was a case of "prove it" from the media. Overestimated the importance of one guy who has previously done it all. So far though, Denver is proving it pretty convincingly. Certainly want them to knock off the Lakers or Warriors after this.


I know that American NBA Mainstream media is asinine, but I dont think they can dictate global betting odds? I know Durant is awesome, but he is kind off very old, he was demolished last year so he aint a guarantee golden boy, team struggled against CLippers skeleton crew, lots of talent, but how are they perceived favorites in this series, Nuggets are rolling, I am sorry.

Instead.. the do dictate the betting odds through convincing their audience. Betting isn't about the probability of the outcomes, instead it's reflecting the state where the "house" won't lose any money.


Yes, I actually know this, I always say that betters arent trying to predict actual outcome, they predict how people think only. But as a naive man, I just believe SAS and Perkins and all their fellow has less impact on general public, but I guess not?
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Post#16 » by Mickey8 » Wed May 3, 2023 10:23 pm

Durant will go berserk at home, Suns will take care of their home court.
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Post#17 » by schnakenpopanz » Wed May 3, 2023 10:31 pm

Mickey8 wrote:Durant will go berserk at home, Suns will take care of their home court.
I honestly doubt it.

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Post#18 » by Wolfgang630 » Wed May 3, 2023 11:55 pm

People trying to do a reverse jinx by saying the Suns will get swept
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Post#19 » by Exp0sed » Wed May 3, 2023 11:58 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:People trying to do a reverse jinx by saying the Suns will get swept


that would be a weird ass jinx :P

I mean,even if they don't sweep the Suns they sure ain't losing 4 out of the next 5 games in this series
so what's there to jinx?

as a neutral fan I can say: get ur brooms ready :)
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Post#20 » by Run DLC » Thu May 4, 2023 12:08 am

I really hope the Nuggets pull this off. I’m just so **** tired of all the cuddling and excuses being made for Durant for failing to deliver ever since he left the Warriors. Can’t wait to see what narrative SAS and Skip will come up with to keep their “best player in the league” agenda going.
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