Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach

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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#41 » by AleksandarN » Fri May 26, 2023 12:39 am

triple_threat wrote:If the lakers had an elite coach, would the series have been tied 2-2 after 4 games. I raise this for the reasons below.

All 4 games were close.

Defensive scheme was terrible IMO. There was no discipline on doubling jokic. I thought they should have made jokic beat them by scoring 50 and they defensive shoudlce been focused on role players/Murray with single coverage on jokic. Like pistons strategy on Shaq (I know ad ain’t Ben Wallace, but with ad and lebron and riu they should have tried)

Way too much Russell. Enough said.

Way too little rui. Rui average 31 minutes first 3 game which is ways too little imo when he should have been starting and averaging 40 mpg his length was required against this den team.

Way too little Tristan. only got a chance game 4? He shoudlve seem time on jokic and right away in g4 he was closing out on perimeter players on switches nicely.

Offensive strategy. I almost had a heart attack every time I watched ad clumsily stumble towards the basket resulting in many turnovers/bad shots. Why couldn’t ad get it in the high post or in that vicinity with his back to the basket , Turn around from a triple threat position and go to work? Austin reaves Shroeder rui were shooting well enough from 3 to give Davis the space to operate, but their positioning was all messed.

Defensive scheme again. These role player were running freely den isn’t even that deep

I feel like too little atttentoon to detail overall in both defense and offense

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What are you talking about??? The Lakers were 4 - 0 in moral victories. They swept the Nuggets
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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#42 » by AleksandarN » Fri May 26, 2023 12:42 am

sfernald wrote:What they needed to do was hire a goon to break Jovic’s leg in the parking lot after game 1. That was the only shot they had… coach wouldn’t have made a bit of difference.

What did the Heat ever do to the Lakers that warranted breaking Jovic’s leg?
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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#43 » by tamaraw08 » Fri May 26, 2023 1:14 am

Not a fan of Ham but a coach is not to blame if
1 . 4 of Nuggets players hit above 40% from 3.
2. Your PG rotation completely disappeared on offense.
3. Your best player shoot under 20% from 3, esp first 3 games.
4. AD played 2 sub par games on offense.
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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#44 » by sick_irony » Fri May 26, 2023 1:21 am

I mean, an amazing coach like Spoelstra/Pop might have gotten a game or two but at the end of the day the Lakers just got outplayed by a better team - Denver is great and should get credit.
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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#45 » by Lalouie » Fri May 26, 2023 1:32 am

lakers who

they never had a chance....no....kaput....nyet
what's done is DONE.

would it make you feel better if the answer was yes?

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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#46 » by MrGoat » Fri May 26, 2023 2:27 am

Nah, good coaches are overrated in the NBA. Still, a really bad coach can screw a team over
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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#47 » by sfernald » Fri May 26, 2023 2:37 am

AleksandarN wrote:
sfernald wrote:What they needed to do was hire a goon to break Jovic’s leg in the parking lot after game 1. That was the only shot they had… coach wouldn’t have made a bit of difference.

What did the Heat ever do the Lakers that warranted breaking Jovic’s leg?


You jokers..
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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#48 » by triple_threat » Fri May 26, 2023 4:31 am

tamaraw08 wrote:Not a fan of Ham but a coach is not to blame if
1 . 4 of Nuggets players hit above 40% from 3.
2. Your PG rotation completely disappeared on offense.
3. Your best player shoot under 20% from 3, esp first 3 games.
4. AD played 2 sub par games on offense.


1 is def his fault due to doubling jokic too much and playing Russell too much over better dedenders like Shroeder and riu who has length

2 is again hams fault as too much Russell. Why didn’t they try a no pg lineup? bron and reaves handle the rock well enough.
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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#49 » by Lalouie » Fri May 26, 2023 4:02 pm

MrGoat wrote:Nah, good coaches are overrated in the NBA. Still, a really bad coach can screw a team over


exactly. a good manager will set you up in a nice office with the widow view and nice music to make you productive. he will get the best you can produce. and that is YOUR limit

a bad manager will set you up in a moldy basement with medieval druid chanting and there's no telling how badly you will perform, and that could be a bottomless pit
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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#50 » by John Murdoch » Fri May 26, 2023 4:09 pm

If AD no showed like that it wouldnt have mattered if Phil Jackson was out there
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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#51 » by Lalouie » Fri May 26, 2023 4:14 pm

John Murdoch wrote:If AD no showed like that it wouldnt have mattered if Phil Jackson was out there


a good coach
gives you a chance at a higher ceiling but that's up to you.
a bad coach lowers your ceiling or gives you none at all, and that is NOT up to you
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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#52 » by The Laker Kid » Fri May 26, 2023 5:59 pm

No. Nuggets were just better. Beat em fair and square.

It's time to rethink and retool.
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Re: Would lakers series have been tied 2-2 with an elite coach 

Post#53 » by LakersLegacy » Fri May 26, 2023 6:13 pm

Yes

The key line up we needed was
Rui+Vando at the wing+ AD+LeBron as bigs+ Reeves running transition offense first, inside out next with AD, LeBron, Rui, Reeves coordinated strategic driving on the Joker until he fouls out every game.

Ham fell in love with Walker the last series. Gave him all Vandos minutes. And went small against the extra big team. Doing the exact opposite of what our old coach did with

Dwight+Davis bigs
LeBron+ Kuzma aka RUI 1.0 wings
Rondo aka REEVES 1.0

He never even tried coach Franks previous Nuggets beating strategy. Ham stays positive is what the players say. Ham is overwhelmed in the XsOs strategy. He’s is a rookie and after a while it really shows

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