Post-Mortem: 2022-23 Boston Celtics

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4 Questions

Poll ended at Thu Jun 1, 2023 2:43 am

Q1: Keep the Head of Front Office
116
19%
Q1: Fire the Head of Front Office
13
2%
Q2: Keep the coach
47
8%
Q2: Fire the coach
105
18%
Q3: Performed better than expected
8
1%
Q3: Performed as expected
63
11%
Q3: Performed worse than expected
90
15%
Q4: Rising Team
18
3%
Q4: Treadmill/Plateaued/Maintaining Team
117
20%
Q4: Waning Team
20
3%
 
Total votes: 597

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Post-Mortem: 2022-23 Boston Celtics 

Post#1 » by ElectricMayhem » Tue May 30, 2023 2:43 am

“Don’t let us make shrewd offseason moves.”

Here is the data from previous years' Post-Mortems:
2020-21:

2021-22:
2021-22 Post Mortem Final Summary

Team Name: Boston Celtics
Record at Time of Death: 57-25 (.695) (ECF Loss)
Head of Front Office: Brad Stevens (2021)
Coach: Joe Mazzulla (2022-)

Offensive Rating: 2nd
Defensive Rating: 2nd
Rebound %: 9th
Turnover %: 7th

Front Office: Change or keep?
Coach: Change or keep?
Relative to expectations, how did they fare this year?
Rising, falling, or treadmill?
If you were in charge, what would you do this offseason?

Notes:
Players under contract next year:
Jayson Tatum ($33m)
Jaylen Brown ($31m)
Malcolm Brogdon ($23m)
Marcus Smart ($19m)
Derrick White ($18m)
Robert Williams ($12m)
Al Horford ($10m)
Danilo Gallinari ($7m)
Payton Pritchard ($4m)
Sam Hauser ($2m)

Team Options:
Mike Muscala ($4m)

Player Options:


Free Agents:
Grant Williams
Blake Griffin
Mfiondu Kabengele
JD Davidson
Justin Champagnie

Dead Money:

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Re: Post-Mortem: 2022-23 Boston Celtics 

Post#2 » by KnicksGadfly » Tue May 30, 2023 2:44 am

Dump Jaylen
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Post#3 » by Blame Rasho » Tue May 30, 2023 2:44 am

You do such a great job on these.
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Post#4 » by SomeBunghole » Tue May 30, 2023 2:45 am

The Udoka fiasco really did the Celtics in, ultimately. While I appreciate the display of loyalty in giving Mazzulla the job, they really should've gone with an experienced coach if they had any plans to contend. Just as an example, Quin Snyder was unemployed when Udoka was fired.
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Post#5 » by NY2k1 » Tue May 30, 2023 2:46 am

Losing the series like that, the C's would have been better off losing in like 5 lol. Thought the game 6 shot was gonna propel them to a game 7 win.
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Post#6 » by Mister Ze » Tue May 30, 2023 2:47 am

Trade Brogdon and/or Smart, bring Grant back and sign JB and JT to extensions.
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Post#7 » by TinmanZBoy » Tue May 30, 2023 2:48 am

fire the coach, separate the Jay Jay, keep Tatum, get whatever you can for Brown, build around Tatum...
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Post#8 » by Patches Perry » Tue May 30, 2023 2:49 am

Big decisions ahead for them. I think Jaylen Brown is going to be the odd man out.
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Post#9 » by Marvin Martian » Tue May 30, 2023 2:50 am

Mazzulla has got to go. A half decent coach sweeps the Hawks, beats PHI in 5, and beat MIA in 5.

Brown should be traded. He doesn't compliment Tatum at all. He is a poor man's Tatum
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2022-23 Boston Celtics 

Post#10 » by ElectricMayhem » Tue May 30, 2023 2:52 am

Joe Mazzulla. It looked like he'd get fired when Boston was down 3-0. They tie it up and become favorites to go the finals and everyone says he saved his job regardless. They get destroyed in Game 7 and people are after his head again. Who knows how they game would've gone with a healthy Tatum? Still, Mazzulla was a bad choice to begin with. I understand they initially thought it might be a temporary hire before bringing Udoka back, so in that respect, it is forgivable (Actually, maybe not - Make the decision on Udoka right away. Then hire a legit coach or keep Udoka in the fold).

So what should they do with Mazzulla? They have a championship caliber team right now. They need a coach who can take advantage of that right now. They've lost too many good potential coaches by not acting with decisive action during the Udoka situation (Snyder, Nurse). You need to strike while the iron is hot, not roll the dice on a rookie coach. Regardless of his ups and downs this season, I think you see if you can find a more proven coach out there to respect where your team is at in the process. Show some urgency.
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Post#11 » by robbie84 » Tue May 30, 2023 2:53 am

If Luka really wants out, then start talking to Luka's agent. Brown for Luka is the trade to make.

The Celtics need a bit more toughness. More alpha from Brown and Tatum.
One day Marcus Smart will be defensive player of the year, mark my words.
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Post#12 » by Karate Diop » Tue May 30, 2023 2:53 am

Brown has been causing issues for years... They should move him before he bolts because supermaxing both Tatum and Brown is a recipe for disaster...
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Post#13 » by Ni Da Ye » Tue May 30, 2023 2:53 am

Sell high and rebuild.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2022-23 Boston Celtics 

Post#14 » by Johnny Tomala » Tue May 30, 2023 2:54 am

Keep, fire, worse, treadmill.
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Post#15 » by djsunyc » Tue May 30, 2023 2:58 am

boston had no home court advantage these playoffs. amazing.
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Post#16 » by sortpar » Tue May 30, 2023 3:00 am

robbie84 wrote:If Luka really wants out, then start talking to Luka's agent. Brown for Luka is the trade to make.

The Celtics need a bit more toughness. More alpha from Brown and Tatum.



No one in my opinion is giving up Luka for Brown, without a lot of extra assets attached going towards Dallas.
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Post#17 » by Harry Garris » Tue May 30, 2023 3:01 am

djsunyc wrote:boston had no home court advantage these playoffs. amazing.


I mean they have one, it just doesn’t work for this particular group in its usual effect of motivating their team and discouraging their opponents.
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Post#18 » by 76ersForLife » Tue May 30, 2023 3:02 am

Upgrade the coach and they need to upgrade from Horford.
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Post#19 » by eyeatoma » Tue May 30, 2023 3:02 am

Joe gotta go, and Jayson Tatum. IMO need to dump Horford/Smart and get White/Brogdon as your starting lineup. They lose depth though, so maybe not. They need a real point guard thouhg, and maybe they can get Ayton, because Robert Williams is a walking emergency room visit.

Also, all the good coaches are gone, so they either have to stick with Joe, or get a bad coach.

Doc Rivers anyone lol?
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Post#20 » by Castle Black » Tue May 30, 2023 3:03 am

Jaylen Brown is a talented basketball player, but he’s nowhere near a Max player. He’s going to get paid like one, and it’s going to cripple the Celtics franchise unless he makes a considerable jump as a player (which is possible as he’s only 26).
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